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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Jtrapper] #7237964
04/08/21 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
LL my brother got diagnosed with prostate cancer and it was the kind that is aggressive so wasn't treatable, they would have to remove his prostate before it spread. He had to get a covid test before surgery and as his luck would have it he was positive and got sick as a dog. Already had 5 other underlying issue's and is 68 years old so according to the fact based media we have now days he would die.

He got over the covid flu, got his prostate removed, went through radiation for 2 months and is now cancer free. Just letting you know all this so your wife can feel a bit more at ease instead of worrying if she gets covid it's curtains for her.

Hope she makes a full recovery from that mess.



Thanks for that. We both had the junk back around Thanksgiving and she had cancer then. We are people of faith but I guess I was caught at a weak moment when we were told of her situation. If she had not had this crap I would never have got the shot. As I said I was sicker after the shot then when I had the bug. She has had both her shots also so no concerns about the china flu so it is just another thing we do not have to spend any thought on. LLL


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7237965
04/08/21 07:51 AM
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Also thankful for your brother. God is good. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238021
04/08/21 09:08 AM
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I just saw a video on the news where four doctors were discussing the vaccine among health professionals. They were talking about nurses and EMS personal who grudgingly took the vaccine, and now weeks after the second does are testing positive for covid. They didnt seem to know why this is happening, but its hard to see how it helped them. I still dont understand why they are not using ivermectin.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: yukon254] #7238032
04/08/21 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yukon254
I just saw a video on the news where four doctors were discussing the vaccine among health professionals. They were talking about nurses and EMS personal who grudgingly took the vaccine, and now weeks after the second does are testing positive for covid. They didnt seem to know why this is happening, but its hard to see how it helped them. I still dont understand why they are not using ivermectin.

Because it's not about curing the covid. Just look at how little any talk of actual treatments for covid were talked about in the news other than ventilators.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238064
04/08/21 09:58 AM
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Got my 1st shot of Maderna on Tues Apr 6th. NO reaction so far. My cousin was the same after #1 but lots of reaction after the 2nd shot.
My second shot is still scheduled for July, as is the wife's.

My niece, a registered nurse who works specifically in the covid field and now gives the" shots", says some Dr's still disagree with the 4month interlude.
I took it this time. If it turns out to be an annual "shot" I don't think I will participate. I'll just revert to my old philosophy ,that I am responsible for myself and live my life accordingly.

You cannot get the whole truth about Covid 19 from anyone, possibly because they don't know and especially from the politicians who appear only to react to "what's the other guys doing" . imo

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238067
04/08/21 10:06 AM
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A ton of info out there today almost all bad, misleading or made up to fit people’s narratives you look around you can find what your looking for to support your ideas or beliefs.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238068
04/08/21 10:08 AM
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I saw they shut down a vaccine center in CO yesterday early when 0.8 % of the ones vaccinated with the J&J vaccine had reactions. I wonder if they opened back up this morning.
"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."
So if someone dies from getting the vaccine does it count as a covid death?

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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238069
04/08/21 10:09 AM
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Some people saying the shot could only be good for six months and then you need a booster.
The tracking batteries must run out after that time.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238078
04/08/21 10:17 AM
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I just keep eating my popcorn and living my life. Stop watching the news people. You'll be better off.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: MJM] #7238081
04/08/21 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MJM
I saw they shut down a vaccine center in CO yesterday early when 0.8 % of the ones vaccinated with the J&J vaccine had reactions. I wonder if they opened back up this morning.
"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."
So if someone dies from getting the vaccine does it count as a covid death?


The question I have is how do they define an 'adverse event'?? Does it only count if it happens within the first 15 minutes?? What about weeks, months or even years later? I know enough about autoimmune disease, since I have one, to understand it can take some time to show symptoms. Autoimmune problems are what seems to concern most doctors who are advising people not to get the vaccine. Stroke and heart attacks are another issue.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: yukon254] #7238093
04/08/21 10:47 AM
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The doc that treated my auto-immune disease (PMR) recommended I get the vaccine.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: ratbrain] #7238097
04/08/21 10:52 AM
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Guy at work had an 80 year old uncle. Died about 2 weeks ago. One Dr. told him not to get the vaccine because of his heart issue. Another Dr told him he should get the vaccine. Two days after the 2nd shot he suffered a stroke and died.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: ratbrain] #7238099
04/08/21 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ratbrain
The doc that treated my auto-immune disease (PMR) recommended I get the vaccine.



These doctors dont. Interesting information, especially the bit from the FDA on possible side effects of the vaccine.....this is what the FDA says. Not some conspiracy nut.

https://drsircus.com/general/vitami...QZrqN7DMPgjfGKL82ix26huBFSY0BJv8rQ2dBOLM


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238157
04/08/21 12:14 PM
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I had to call 911 at 2 in the morning after my wife got her second dose of maderna she threw up then her arms went paralyzed, hands were all contorted, followed by her throat and breathing being effected. By the time the paramedics got there she was coming out of it but it was pretty scary stuff there for a bit. She's in her thirty's and had to get it for work, or should say she felt like she had to get it for work

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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Choo] #7238164
04/08/21 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Choo
I had to call 911 at 2 in the morning after my wife got her second dose of maderna she threw up then her arms went paralyzed, hands were all contorted, followed by her throat and breathing being effected. By the time the paramedics got there she was coming out of it but it was pretty scary stuff there for a bit. She's in her thirty's and had to get it for work, or should say she felt like she had to get it for work


But that's just a conspiracy. She is ok so it's all good now. No worries at all about long term effect or future birth defects. Just as all those calling anyone that questions the rushed experiment a conspiracy nut.

I'm glad she is ok and it was not worse. Hopefully she will not have any further problems.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238167
04/08/21 12:33 PM
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Too many lies, too much politics involved. They lied about hydroxychloroquine being ineffective in curing the virus. I have seen videos of doctors in other countries claiming 100% cure rates against the virus using hydroxychloroquine. I looked up a couple of these doctors and found they are legitimate infectious disease doctors. Some claimed ivermectin has also been used with great results and a high cure rate. But, in the US both drugs have been rejected. Instead, they are touting the more much expensive drug remdesivir. Could it be all about the money first and saving lives second?
If you can't trust the government on the cure, how can you place your trust in the prevention?


Perhaps they should deal with rap music lyrics before they attack Dr. Seuss books.
Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Trapper7] #7238176
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Too many lies, too much politics involved. They lied about hydroxychloroquine being ineffective in curing the virus. I have seen videos of doctors in other countries claiming 100% cure rates against the virus using hydroxychloroquine. I looked up a couple of these doctors and found they are legitimate infectious disease doctors. Some claimed ivermectin has also been used with great results and a high cure rate. But, in the US both drugs have been rejected. Instead, they are touting the more much expensive drug remdesivir. Could it be all about the money first and saving lives second?
If you can't trust the government on the cure, how can you place your trust in the prevention?


Good points. There are a few doctors in the US who are using ivermectin with great success now. Dr Kory testified before the senate about it and told them if they didnt authorize its use the blood would be on their hands....which in my opinion it is because the information has been out there for months now. You can go to some of these doctors via an online consultation and they will give you a prescription for ivermectin now.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238180
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Yukon 254, your comment wondering why they don't just use Ivermectin, is a good question. It's because there's no money for the drug companies in a drug farmers around here use to protect their cattle from coronaviruses. It's an inexpensive drug in comparison to remdesivir. It's more about the money than it is the cure.


Perhaps they should deal with rap music lyrics before they attack Dr. Seuss books.
Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7238572
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Shot that cause's blood clots is being banned in most place's, some only giving it out to old people, i guess old people are expendable. Be interesting to see what the long term effects from all of this are but i guess like most things involving this it will be covered up and never known.

So far all of it looks like a global population reduction plan to me.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: LLtrapper] #7238785
04/09/21 12:08 AM
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Larry, I thought you were going to take a pass on the vaccine.

Mind if I ask why the change of mind?


My wife was diagnosed with cancer last week Steven. I am her caregiver and her doctor said I needed to. I was sicker with the shot than I was when I had it the first time. LLL


Larry, sorry to hear of your wife's condition. Your family's faith will help you navigate the course. Good luck and we'll be thinking of you and yours.

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