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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: beaverpeeler] #7238360
04/08/21 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I got the perfect solution for LL....don't ship to FHA if you don't like how they do things. They pretty much have been doing things the same way ever since I first shipped 22-23 years ago. Nothing new here.

Theyre not gonna survive if they keep it up either.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238386
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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238391
04/08/21 05:16 PM
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Nafa never updated accts never or not all time after pt sales until next sale, lot gripes about FHA, smaller outfit than nafa, never try them I don't know, so Thais kinda a broker or u got have lot fur to go thru a broker to get it directly to China ?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: beaverpeeler] #7238475
04/08/21 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I got the perfect solution for LL....don't ship to FHA if you don't like how they do things. They pretty much have been doing things the same way ever since I first shipped 22-23 years ago. Nothing new here.


I took your advice. I will not be shipping anything to them going forward but for your insight this was not my first time shipping either. I probably shipped more fur to them this last decade than you have in your 24 years I would bet. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7238478
04/08/21 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I got the perfect solution for LL....don't ship to FHA if you don't like how they do things. They pretty much have been doing things the same way ever since I first shipped 22-23 years ago. Nothing new here.

Theyre not gonna survive if they keep it up either.


Yep...something stinks.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238480
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They flat out lied when they said they would not sell any fur after the August sale dates were over. They did sell a bunch of stuff real cheap. That is not how they have done business in the past. They are going the way of NAFA. Dave you better find you a local dealer. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: BvrRetriever] #7238482
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In today’s day and age, there is absolutely no reason for lack of communication! I refuse to send more fur into a black hole. I’ve got other outlets but liked the idea of competitive bidding. If I’m kept in the dark I will act accordingly.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: BvrRetriever] #7238489
04/08/21 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
In today’s day and age, there is absolutely no reason for lack of communication! I refuse to send more fur into a black hole. I’ve got other outlets but liked the idea of competitive bidding. If I’m kept in the dark I will act accordingly.


There is no competitive bidding when they sell stuff in the private treaty room. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7238493
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
In today’s day and age, there is absolutely no reason for lack of communication! I refuse to send more fur into a black hole. I’ve got other outlets but liked the idea of competitive bidding. If I’m kept in the dark I will act accordingly.


There is no competitive bidding when they sell stuff in the private treaty room. LLL



Good point. At least when you sell local you can pull it back.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238532
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Yep I know a fella that sold 50 northern wi mink for a $2.97 average to a traveling country buyer back before chistmas. What’s ur point?

This.entire season has been a fire sale up to 3 weeks ago.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238549
04/08/21 08:25 PM
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Sorry LL, I'm sure you're right and I'm likely guilty of coming off a little snippy....but gee wiz man, if you've done business with them for as long as you say, you know how they do things. Nothing has changed. Why the constant whining?

The fur market is not good but should we kill the messenger?


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: beaverpeeler] #7238563
04/08/21 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Sorry LL, I'm sure you're right and I'm likely guilty of coming off a little snippy....but gee wiz man, if you've done business with them for as long as you say, you know how they do things. Nothing has changed. Why the constant whining?

The fur market is not good but should we kill the messenger?


They have never flat out lied about things in the past. You cannot tell me you will not sell my stuff at a private treaty and then do just that. I hold Mark Downey responsible for that. I despise a liar. Tell me the truth. I can take that. Tell me a lie and I will never trust you again for the most part or at least have reservations. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238596
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Poor communication cost FHA some business for sure this year. I would guess their intentions were good on holding to valuations going into recent auctions, but underestimated how depressed the market had become. Perhaps they had to move some product just to stay afloat. It caused me to hold fur back that I intended to ship, but instead found another market. Still, I won't write them off in the future and hope they can right the ship and become a viable market again.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7238649
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Nafa never updated accts never or not all time after pt sales until next sale, lot gripes about FHA, smaller outfit than nafa, never try them I don't know, so Thais kinda a broker or u got have lot fur to go thru a broker to get it directly to China ?

NAFA always updated my account with any PT sales by prompt date. Any PT sales that occurred after prompt date would be updated at next auction.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238652
04/08/21 09:39 PM
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Can anyone remember anything they said or does that matter? They said they would NOT sell anything after the sale. They did. I guess some do not know about the scripture of "let your yes be yes and your no be no. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: K. Nordby] #7238691
04/08/21 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Nordby
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Here are my private treaty sales on some lots at fha as of 3/17/2021
I am also happy with the results
Kevin


Hid did you find that info? I didn’t want to bother them but I certainly don’t see anything on my account pertaining to pt sales


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238711
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LL, apologies extended. I now get your point, and I do recall then saying it was auction or nothing or words to the effect. Must have changed their minds.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238723
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As much as it bothers the shippers, I’m afraid it showed the brokers/buyers that FHA saying it’s auction “or else” means nothing. Essentially their bluff was called.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7238773
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Can anyone remember anything they said or does that matter? They said they would NOT sell anything after the sale. They did. I guess some do not know about the scripture of "let your yes be yes and your no be no. LLL


It doesn't matter.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7238780
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Don’t ship fur your not willing to accept a total loss. Shipping is a big gamble. In other words, Live by the sword and die by the sword. There is a small niche market for a few select articles in small quantities. Not what I would consider a viable fur market therefore large percentage of most trappers fur shipped will have little to no value. No way FHA can make everyone happy. (Fur prices stink no matter where trapper sells)

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