Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: ponyboy]
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04/09/21 12:36 AM
04/09/21 12:36 AM
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nimzy
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All this dissatisfaction is a sign of capitulation?
A Nafa agent once told me “you’re only as good as your LAST sale”. Whereas I replied. No, you’re only as good as your NEXT sale. He chuckled at that.
A testimony to the challenges of “trust”, the scrutiny of decisions. And the interpretation of the fallout.
Last edited by nimzy; 04/09/21 12:38 AM.
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: ponyboy]
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04/09/21 12:46 AM
04/09/21 12:46 AM
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drasselt
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I just dropped off a string of coyotes and a sack of rats with the local receiving agent. I'm thinking the coyotes will do ok regardless and that things might be perking up with the rats. We'll see.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: teepee2]
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04/09/21 06:07 PM
04/09/21 06:07 PM
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blackhammer
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LL if you have shipped so much fur I'm sure you have read the conditions of sale. #7 They will sell your fur at their discretion. You Knew what you were getting into when you sent your fur there. Being so you didn't trap this year evidently you couldn't find any place better in this market. So unwad your panties and suck it up buttercup. Tell that to the guys NAFA screwed. We have one auction house left and I doubt they have any interest in more fur. Maybe more state association sales could help fill a void. FHA doesn't have the facilities, tech savvy manpower or ambition to anything more than a small Canadian trapper led company. Nothing wrong with that but sure would like to see some forward thinking people come up with other options. The market might actually be on the upswing for a few years with few ranch mink being produced
Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: teepee2]
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04/09/21 07:36 PM
04/09/21 07:36 PM
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Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
LLtrapper
"The Coon Combine"
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"The Coon Combine"
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LL if you have shipped so much fur I'm sure you have read the conditions of sale. #7 They will sell your fur at their discretion. You Knew what you were getting into when you sent your fur there. Being so you didn't trap this year evidently you couldn't find any place better in this market. So unwad your panties and suck it up buttercup. Who are you toilet paper two? Where does it say they can lie and that is ok. They told us they were not going to sell them PT and did. How much fur do you have up there? I did not trap because there was no money to be made. Why add to the injury? Did not know I had to run my business past you. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: ponyboy]
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04/09/21 11:03 PM
04/09/21 11:03 PM
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Steven 49er
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Larry, you had to learn the hard way. FHA has told us many times they are going to "hold" the line so to speak and then did the opposite.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: Steven 49er]
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04/10/21 07:57 AM
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nimzy
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Larry, you had to learn the hard way. FHA has told us many times they are going to "hold" the line so to speak and then did the opposite.
Holding the line stalls cash flow, increases risk, requires additional handling and creates storage fees that can only be recovered with significant pelt price increases. As sellers we need to recognize the current environment. When things are bad we must expect bad things.
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: Guy Johnson]
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04/10/21 08:54 AM
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nimzy
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FHA for all their good intentions are simply the equivalent of Class A Baseball !! Kids that are never going to make it! As a Buisnessman I find it in inconceivable that an organization that is operating within a Worldwide Market can be so tech antiquated and fundamentally inferior to what actually takes to operate competitively in the Worldwide market place. I personally have no I'll feelings towards them.as they are trying to provide us with a market resource in the toughest of conditions but they drop the ball repeatedly when it comes to communication with their shippers and I can only assume are as inept when dealing with clients which is not to reassuring. Key word competitive. They really no longer have any in this business model. Nafa was far and away savvy. However all that savvy can create suspicion and irritate shippers. Perhaps FHA found flaw in that and believes simplistic carries a more “honest” vibe? Just spitballing
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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04/10/21 09:38 AM
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Dirt
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They said one thing and did another, sounds like politicians have taken over FHA. I believe they hired a lot of former NAFA employees. Seems like it. If you guys don't think NAFA could screw up or lie, check out Doilette.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FURHARVESTERS
[Re: ponyboy]
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04/10/21 10:37 AM
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beaverpeeler
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In the last few years of Nafa's existence many felt that their grading had gone downhill, eroding buyers confidence. In that regard FHA had them beat, in particular when it came to beaver.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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