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Gun kits with no serial number??? #7239046
04/09/21 12:03 PM
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Democrats babbling about EOs concerning outlawing gun kits that can be bought that can be assembled in 30 minutes that have no serial numbers? Are these available? I'm not aware of them.


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Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239052
04/09/21 12:06 PM
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Did you really think a democrat on tv knew what they were talking about when it comes to guns?


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Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239055
04/09/21 12:10 PM
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Some handguns can be put together in an hour.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239056
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They're called 80%. They are hard to get your hands on right now. I assure you it takes way longer than 30 minutes to do one. You don't need a mill it can be inlet with a drill but it does take a little skill. I think if you really read the rules on them you will find that yes you can build a firearm for personal use. It does not need to be registered. If I'm not mistaken it does have to have a serial number of some kind inscribed on it but that serial number does not have to be recorded anywhere. I also believe that non of them have been used in any of the shootings so his EO is total BS but because it is a law he cannot legally restrict it. Shall not be infringed comes into play somewhere. I expect that all of them will be challenged and even though I like others have little faith in the supreme court they have generally stood on the side of the 2A even when it was a majority liberal.


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Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239064
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Tons of them out there. 3D printer guns are the ones they are after.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239069
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Look up ghost guns and good luck finding one it’s just a 80% lower that comes with the tools to finish the guns.


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Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239071
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That's not what AMERICANS need to worry about BOBO said "NO AMENDMENT IN THE CONSTITUTION IS SAFE " from change !!!

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239074
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https://www.brownells.com/

Here you go all kinds of them.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: jbyrd63] #7239075
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
That's not what AMERICANS need to worry about BOBO said "NO AMENDMENT IN THE CONSTITUTION IS SAFE " from change !!!



I saw he said that" no amendment is absolute" they want the guns.

Sadly many will comply and line up. Many more will rat out their friends and family. Have any doubts how public opinion, lack of thinking, and behavior can easily be modified? Just look how easy people are controlled with a low death rate virus.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239080
04/09/21 12:38 PM
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It's just silly. If you afford, or in the case of criminals steal, all the tools needed to either 3D print or finish a lower and buy all the rest of the components, you'd of been better off just buying(or again as a criminal steal) a used firearm.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239098
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Turk most everything you wrote is inaccurate


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Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239106
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I dont get the whole serial number thing.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239118
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They want serial numbers and a registry. so they can then later confiscate . Its like this is a first or even a semi new idea . Hitler did it, Stalin , Franco ,Mussolini and a bunch of others. Same playbook, different idiots.

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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239121
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One would think that when the head thief said, that no amendment is absolute, it would wake a few folks up as to what is going on.

But I see a bunch of folks like this guy all over the place.

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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239131
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I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised to see them ban ALL building kits which would include AR's and others.
When unknowledgeable people are making decisions and creating laws, everyone is going to suffer.

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239167
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This stuff has been around for a while it seems a handful for people can change the lifestyles of 330 million people on a whim by playing word games.


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I have one, I'm looking for a drill press to use

Re: Gun kits with no serial number??? [Re: Gary Benson] #7239182
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Dang things have been around that I know of sense the late 80s, probably before that. It never was a problem until the talking heads started making it a problem. And no I have yet to see one that can be put together in 30 minutes.
An AR lower can be milled in 30 minutes according to one of the jig makers web page. I would expect it takes longer than that even with their fancy jig, and then you still need to put the gun together. Watched a video once of a guy building an AK from a kit. That took several hours of Utube and had some editing. I expect he spend well over a full work day on it and even cheated using a wilder instead of rivets. The glock style pistol appears to be the fastest to build and I have been told that one takes a good hour.
As someone above said, criminals will steal a gun long before taking the time to learn to and then build one. It would take a lot of specialized equipment the avg crackhead or criminal would most likely not have, not to mention a level of craftsmanship unseen in a crackhead.The numbers on that stolen gun won't do anymore good than the lack of on a blank receiver. This whole thing is an attempt to make it harder for law biding citizens to keep their guns and nothing to do with disarming criminals. Although I expect a lot of us will be criminals very soon according to the tyrannical govt.

"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty" Thomas Jefferson

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I'd say we can say goodbye to building our own guns from now on also. They'll be lumped in with the 80% .

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The same people that want to take your guns, to make everyone safe, want to to take a shot to make everyone safe. You know for the good of all.


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