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Re: Joining the military [Re: henpecked1] #7238287
04/08/21 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by henpecked1
Iím thinking about the military, maybe even trying to get into West Point. What is your opinions on joining the military even though the government of that military is becoming increasingly corrupt.

you have not seen corruption till you have been in a third world crap hole where they will kill you for a banana or hand full of rice. or seen those governments supported by communists. and facists.

Having had way over 20 years in (and retired) (served in the Army and the Navy), over 50 countries and turned 50 in Iraq OIFII: YOU SHOULD NOT JOIN: you have the WRONG ATTITUDE right out of the shoot and will likely fail and drop out, especially from the officer corp end of things.

if you change your attitude and want to become part of a team then go for it, but right off the top you have not done any research on the subject on your own which indicates lack of motivation and your opinions on the government have nothing to do with the job and mission. You leave that crap at the door.

So stay a civilian and be a could have been, should have been wanna be; unless you want to change the world by being something more than an uninformed statistic.
You want to be a professional, then step up to the plate. Learn all you can especially how to adapt and overcome all obstacles in your life. but you better learn to listen first and keep your uninformed opinions and mouth shut.

So Iím not doing any research and Iím not motivated.. but Iím asking questions in this post.

Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7238333
04/08/21 04:12 PM
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You're going to have to do some soul searching and figure out what you want, you can see there's a variety of opinions here - even from the guys who have served. The military is always changing with the times, it always has and it always will - sometimes for the better and sometimes not. You can try it and get out after your first enlistment if it doesn't suit you or resign your commission if an officer after your initial obligation is fulfilled. Either way, I think most people who serve even one hitch gains some benefit from the service. For me personally, I wouldn't trade my 20+ years in the army for anything - even with the years of deployments and the scars that came with them. I got to do things and go places that many never will. And since I retired the education benefits, pension and basically free health care has been a blessing, even if it was hard earned. Give it a try and decide for yourself if it's career worthy. I doubt anyone one here that has served is ashamed of doing so or regrets the overall experience.

Re: Joining the military [Re: traprjohn] #7238449
04/08/21 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by Gone Trappin.
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I am loyal to the constitution. I just fear what if I joined and had to do something I don’t agree with?


that's the chance you take


Pretty big chance considering the simp currently inhabiting the oval office. I wouldn't even dream of joining right now... Not with the push to use our armed services as a social experiment or brown-shirt enforcers.

But it is the young man's choice and I would advise him to research carefully.

Mike


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7238452
04/08/21 06:12 PM
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You will come out a better person IMO!


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7238601
04/08/21 09:13 PM
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I haven't read all the posts here, but I would join again in a heart beat. If you can't get into Westpoint, I would at least get an associates degree before going in. It will open more doors. If not, do not join until you have a GT score of over 110. (If they still go by GT scores). Again it opens more doors. The military is good for all!!!


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7238636
04/08/21 09:28 PM
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My biggest regret in life was not serving. I think about it very often. I am 55 and would join now if I could.


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7238647
04/08/21 09:36 PM
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gone trappin, i did 25 years in the army and retired a master sergeant i served mostly with the 82nd airborne division all over the globe and several wars and dust ups , now the govt pays me a good pension, its a hard life in the infantry but iam proud of my service and would never try to talk a young man out of serving the country in the military regardless of the branch , its a serious decision but i say go for it you wont regret it just my 2 cent banchee


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7239844
04/10/21 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Trappin.
Originally Posted by KenaiKid
I'm not a servicemember, but my personal opinion is that we need all the people we can get in the armed forces who are loyal to the Constitution and the country above the government. Serve well, just know where your line in the sand is and remember it.

I am loyal to the constitution. I just fear what if I joined and had to do something I donít agree with?

KK is absolutely correct. We desperately need good, solid Americans everywhere, especially in gov't service.

GT, they taught us that it is our DUTY to disobey unlawful orders in the US Army in the 1980s. Hopefully they still teach that today. The whole "did what they told me to" excuse flew out the window during the Nuremberg trials. Stand true to your values and your oath of service, then you'll always be able to hold your head high.

US Army Oath of Enlistment

Serving in the military is a great thing for each of us, and for our country. You'll have earned the right to be proud of that for the rest of your life.

IMHO, serving at least two years in the military with at least one of those years in a Third World country ought to be required for citizenship and/or the right to vote.
People value things more when they have skin in the game. Tend to trash what comes easy or free. So make it cost!


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"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7239903
04/10/21 11:45 AM
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I guess you could say the military got me where I am today. No regrets and life is good. Not everyone is cut out for it. You have to want to serve in order to have a good experience. Iíve known a lot of kids that talked a big game for attention until it came time to leave then decided it wasnít for them. I sometimes wish it was mandatory for ALL kids to enlist for at least 2 years at 18 years of age...which would have included my own, although they turned out alright having an ex military Dad, lol.

Re: Joining the military [Re: Gone Trappin.] #7240630
04/11/21 09:52 AM
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I joined the Navy in 1995 and am still serving. It has been a great career and I am still enjoying it.

I say join if it is something you want to do. Like any other major decision, think it through and do your research. Feel free to contact me if you care to discuss or think I can assist you in any way.


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