Do they work good to stop a bad person?

If they are bad enough to need stopping, I am not messing around with pepper balls.

Inside a house, I would guess the "cloud" would cause issues, not just for the target. Similar to trying to shoot bear spray upwind.

Kinda like asking if you can catch a beaver with a #1. Perfect circumstances yes, but not all.

you can drop a 600 pound Grizzly with a 22 short single shot rifle. it has been done. definitely no ones first choice.

there is little use that is both legal and effective for use on humans unless you are breaking up a riot , which is not your job that is a LEO job or NG.

they could be good for encouraging bears that like to visit your home or farm to leave from the safety of your truck or house. then again so would rubber buckshot and you already have a shotgun. nor are bear a huge issue in IA.

the odd thing is that with people you basically have to be justified to use lethal force before you can use less than lethal force. less than lethal force almost comes with more restrictions on use than lethal force does.

as an example the rubber slugs may only be used for 5 rounds max on an induvial before tactics need to be changed I was talking with police chief in the neighboring town when he picked up the orange stocks for the shotgun they were designating less than lethal I asked if he was going to add a mag tube extender also , he said not much point they have to stop using it at 5 rounds because some Florida department shot a guy who had taped manchettes to his hands so that he couldn't drop them 40 times and the guy died of internal bleeding.
new standards of use had to be set and that placed the number of rounds at 5.

the expandable batons are another example of legal use vs effective use and their is a tiny window of legal and effective use.

Yes and no.
Many deputy sheriffs friends of mine use them. They are useful on some people and very irritating for others. Capsaicin in a paintball.

Not sure about Pepper ball.. But a High Powered Paint ball with some frozen paint balls in it will Hurt I know for a fact.

I see, kinda what I figured, on the news they bragged them up

Until there is something that comes out that can shut down a person's nervous system at range, non lethals will always be a risky proposition against a determined/drug fueled attack.

I believe that, I hear a taser doesn't always work on everyone

Can be very useful in a CONTROLLED setting with irritants dispersing as they bust open. They do hurt like a …… especially up close but I wouldn't trust my safety to one on the street or as home defense. Ours were very accurate "when" they didn't jam up, which was seldom. Not very reliable at all.

I see, ya I used to paint ball with my son's, I almost took one in the nutes!

Simple clothing can defeat a taser.

To stop these rioters all you have to do Is do a fly over and dump a load of fire retardant on them. You would be killing two birds with one load. Stopping the thugs and putting out any fires they started.

Exactly!!!!

So, does that mean after the first five rubber slugs, you can switch to hollow point lead slugs.

Criminals are a protected species in the US now.

Keith

Especially if they are illegal alien criminals

If he or she has made it into my house, I’m slinging lead at them
I’m sure they didn’t come to borrow a cup and of sugar.
Funny thing is until abt a decade ago I never had or thought abt buying a gun for home defense
I carry 24/7 now, sad that it has come to that.
Remember guys not all Democrats are criminals
But all Criminals are Democrats

I personally have shot multiple people with a pepper ball gun. For you folks that don't know, pepper balls are harder than your common paint balls, and they fire with more force. Some folks it works on, others it doesn't. In my 15 years of LEO experience, I prefer the pepper ball over the pepper spray. The physical impact of the pepper ball combined with the immediate dust of powder seems to have more of an effect. With that said, I have personally witnessed on multiple occasions where spray or pepper balls had little to no effect on a subject.


Not long ago, I responded to a fight with weapons included, 4 on 1. The victim was stabbed 37 times, with 3 shanks, and the 4th subject had a lock on a belt beating away on the victims head and face. Backup came into my unit from 2 directions, firing cans of gas, pepper spray, and shooting the main subject stabbing the victim with the pepper ball guns.The pepper balls were "walked in" from a distance up to point blank because he wouldn't stop. This man was literally straddling the victim, beating a 13" shank through this victims chest. The shank was literally exiting the back of the victim. When everyone was restrained, there were 7 pepper balls embedded in the subjects back, that had not burst. They were fired from such close range, they literally looked like giant cysts. In the debrief, the main subject stated "I never felt the pepper balls until after I was cuffed."

With that said, the pepper ball is just another tool. Like a taser, baton, pepper spray, etc they are not going to work 100% of the time on everyone. I personally am thankful our institutions have pepper balls, because walk a beat in my shoes without a baton or side arm, you would be dam thankful for whatever munitions you are allowed to use.

Wow! Question answered!
That's crazy huh! I think a 9mm with hollow points will be my choice