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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: jbyrd63] #7242518
04/13/21 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Yea you guys may not know this but birth control pills themselves cause blood clots. HOW do I know ? My wife had 2 strokes from clots and it was linked to her being on the pill so long. What happened you may or may not ask? I got fixed and she got off the pill. No issues since .........


So my questions for you is if there was a couple not wanting kids no longer inquiring on birth control. Would you tell them to use the pill or get fixed?

Would you or would you not tell them blood clots can be a side effect?

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242664
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56,869 Covid-19 Vaccine Reports to VAERS
(Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting)
Reports Through April 2, 2021*
• 2342 DEATHS
• 4972 HOSPITALIZATIONS
• 8975 URGENT CARE
• 8744 OFFICE VISITS
• 412 ANAPHYLAXIS
• 460 BELL'S PALSY
• 502 Heart Attacks
• 84 Miscarriages
• 3145 Severe Allergic Reaction
• 321 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet
Source: openvaers.com


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: MJM] #7242669
04/13/21 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
56,869 Covid-19 Vaccine Reports to VAERS
(Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting)
Reports Through April 2, 2021*
• 2342 DEATHS
• 4972 HOSPITALIZATIONS
• 8975 URGENT CARE
• 8744 OFFICE VISITS
• 412 ANAPHYLAXIS
• 460 BELL'S PALSY
• 502 Heart Attacks
• 84 Miscarriages
• 3145 Severe Allergic Reaction
• 321 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet
Source: openvaers.com



Not bad at all .....lol

Makes you wanna rush down and get in line ......lol


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242853
04/13/21 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by corky
Dr. Fauci holding a news conference right now. I'm still waiting for the following questions by the WH press corps:
1) Did the Biden Administration rush the approval of the vaccine without proper science? It was approved Feb. 27, a month into Biden's term.
2) Did the fact that Johnson and Johnson gave $ 370,001 to the Biden campaign versus $ 106,718 to Trump influence the approval process?

I know that Trump would be asked those questions.

I'm glad to see someone else had to look it up after hearing the news -- My guess is they didn't pay enough. and if you look at the history they are not necessarily liberal -- lean a little (small amount) to the right.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: ccoyote] #7242867
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Originally Posted by ccoyote
Also im not anti vaccine by any stretch. Im just against the idea or notion of saying that vaccines are 100 percent safe and cant cause serious side effects. That simply is kept hush hush.



OK I WILL SAY THIS SLOWLY N O V A C C I NE or ANY drug is safe. Heck people die from eating peanuts !!!!!!!!!!!

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: ccoyote] #7242872
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Originally Posted by ccoyote
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Yea you guys may not know this but birth control pills themselves cause blood clots. HOW do I know ? My wife had 2 strokes from clots and it was linked to her being on the pill so long. What happened you may or may not ask? I got fixed and she got off the pill. No issues since .........


So my questions for you is if there was a couple not wanting kids no longer inquiring on birth control. Would you tell them to use the pill or get fixed?

Would you or would you not tell them blood clots can be a side effect?


I wouldn't tell them either. First and foremost 100's Of million of women are on the pill with little or no side effects. Now what can we compare that to HMMMM OH yes a covid shot !!!

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242967
04/14/21 12:18 AM
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7,000,000 have gotten J and J vaccine--6 got blood clots and 1 died. I am sure more info will be coming in the future.
Tom


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243176
04/14/21 10:28 AM
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You got a better chance of getting killed by a frozen chunk of excrement breaking off an airplane than from those odds,lol.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243308
04/14/21 01:25 PM
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Personally, all of the people I know or have heard about getting sick from ANY of the vaccines have been women.

In the past J&J has also developed vaccines for SARS-2 and Ebola using the same procedure. I'd bet there are quite a few people glad they did.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: white17] #7243347
04/14/21 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by trapper124
There will be more cases of this reported, just FYI. Though it’s still likely extremely rare


So doc, this is pretty interesting to me.

Of the 6 cases in the US.ALL were women between 18-48. That just screams to me that something else is involved. Birth control pharmaceuticals ??

I believe all the cases in Europe are also female.


That crossed my mind too. Other two vaccines have reports of bleeding problems in woman. Could be JJ added some clotting agent to prevent the bleeding problems.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: Boco] #7243356
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Originally Posted by Boco
You got a better chance of getting killed by a frozen chunk of excrement breaking off an airplane than from those odds,lol.

Im still not taking it.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: Boco] #7243446
04/14/21 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You got a better chance of getting killed by a frozen chunk of excrement breaking off an airplane than from those odds,lol.


Those odds are young, give it a year, or two.

Not sure we have the whole story because I doubt they would have paused it for 6 out of 6,7 million.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243449
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Who believes only 6? lol

CDC had an emergency meeting today about this.....haven't heard anything else.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: grumpa] #7243452
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Originally Posted by grumpa
So are all of us idiots that got the J & J Vac. gonna die??? I know I am. sooner or later, we all gotta go.


Everything we do these days is gonna kill us. Might as well make it something fun.

Last edited by Gary Benson; 04/14/21 05:22 PM.

I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: hippie] #7243457
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Originally Posted by hippie
Who believes only 6? lol

CDC had an emergency meeting today about this.....haven't heard anything else.


Not me. The vaccine clinics here watch you for 15-minutes, then out into the world you go. Older folks have heart attacks and strokes all the time. It might be months before the connection is made. But you are absolutely right. The CDC is having an emergency meeting and they dont do that for 6 people. Maybe some of the doctors that have been warning about the possibility of ADE infections are finally being listened too??


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243505
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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: jbyrd63] #7243759
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by ccoyote
Also im not anti vaccine by any stretch. Im just against the idea or notion of saying that vaccines are 100 percent safe and cant cause serious side effects. That simply is kept hush hush.



OK I WILL SAY THIS SLOWLY N O V A C C I NE or ANY drug is safe. Heck people die from eating peanuts !!!!!!!!!!!


Oh thank you, that helps a lot as I can't read fast.... like I said hush hush. No one wants to talk about vaccine side effects. Im not just talking covid. Sweep it under the rug just like some anti vax want to with covid death numbers.

I've had the same conversation with people who are anti vaccine that believe modern medicine can cure all or most ailments. At that point people need to be reminded that drugs, medical procedures, diagnostics, etc. are also not 100 percent safe. Which for some that's also a shocker.

Different people want to take their chances differently. I support that. Being open about side effects is a good thing.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243766
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63


I wouldn't tell them either. First and foremost 100's Of million of women are on the pill with little or no side effects. Now what can we compare that to HMMMM OH yes a covid shot !!!


Well that's fair, and its a great thing people have a choice on birth control. My opinion still good to be aware of side effects. No matter the drug, vaccine, procedure, etc.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243781
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So , they're still calling it a "vaccine" huh?


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7243784
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You have been asking that same question for weeks on posts about the Vaccine. And yes it is considered a vaccine.
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