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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: danny clifton] #7246010
04/18/21 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton

How smart do you have to be to keep your knee on a guys neck with people everywhere watching? How smart do you have to be to realize the guy that fell down while your stuffing him in a police car is drunk or high? Just cause the guy needed arrested doesn't excuse outrageous behavior by L.E.

The knee to the neck doesn't kill you.

https://youtu.be/O88knFix2fo

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246020
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Just go shoot a unarmed white lady, and nobody will even know your name. As far as the two cases in Minnesota are concerned both sides have to take responsibility for the outcome of the situation. With different reactions ether party in both cases could of changed the outcome.

Last edited by teepee2; 04/18/21 11:16 AM.
Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: teepee2] #7246034
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One better, had any of the “police assaults”.began with a non aggressive or compliant suspect, they would mostly all be alive and continuing their criminal conduct yet today. Or in prison, but still alive. I say mostly only because the lifestyle some of them led is not conducive to a long healthy life. My 02.


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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: riverratdm] #7246047
04/18/21 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by riverratdm
Originally Posted by danny clifton

How smart do you have to be to keep your knee on a guys neck with people everywhere watching? How smart do you have to be to realize the guy that fell down while your stuffing him in a police car is drunk or high? Just cause the guy needed arrested doesn't excuse outrageous behavior by L.E.

The knee to the neck doesn't kill you.

https://youtu.be/O88knFix2fo


Still doesn't make it acceptable. There was absolutely no reason to do it.

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246050
04/18/21 11:05 AM
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Just where in the world is it OK to kneel on someone’s neck? How many times have you done that in your life and it was OK, would you do it on friends and family members if it’s OK?

I’ve had countless hours of training in juvenile and adult restraints it’s never been a acceptable policy but you talking heads just keep going! LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: Law Dog] #7246057
04/18/21 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Just where in the world is it OK to kneel on someone’s neck? How many times have you done that in your life and it was OK, would you do it on friends and family members if it’s OK?

I’ve had countless hours of training in juvenile and adult restraints it’s never been a acceptable policy but you talking heads just keep going! LOL


Considering his size, resistance and the crowd, what should the cop have done?

Serious question, not arguing.

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: Law Dog] #7246058
04/18/21 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Just where in the world is it OK to kneel on someone’s neck? How many times have you done that in your life and it was OK, would you do it on friends and family members if it’s OK?

I’ve had countless hours of training in juvenile and adult restraints it’s never been a acceptable policy but you talking heads just keep going! LOL

And your not a Minnesota cop.
If you would have bothered to look, like others on here and the MSM
Y'all would know that is how Minneapolis popo handled those things.
Oh yea. They changed the rule that evening
So keep on saying he was wrong
It only proves you are like most
ONLY READ THE F....IN HEADLINES

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: Blaine County] #7246074
04/18/21 11:42 AM
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Ankle cuffed him then another set of cuffs from wrist to ankle, he isn't going nowhere.

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246075
04/18/21 11:44 AM
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Any trapper knows what happens when you stand on the neck and chest for a few minutes.
BUT-it all depends on how much weight is applied.

Last edited by Boco; 04/18/21 11:46 AM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: Boco] #7246078
04/18/21 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Any trapper knows what happens when you stand on the neck and chest for a few minutes.
BUT-it all depends on how much weight is applied.

Enough to get the job done! Fast and efficient


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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: Blaine County] #7246083
04/18/21 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Just where in the world is it OK to kneel on someone’s neck? How many times have you done that in your life and it was OK, would you do it on friends and family members if it’s OK?

I’ve had countless hours of training in juvenile and adult restraints it’s never been a acceptable policy but you talking heads just keep going! LOL


Considering his size, resistance and the crowd, what should the cop have done?

Serious question, not arguing.



The guy was cuffed with 4 Officers on him and could not move how much force would be needed when he stopped moving?

Last edited by Law Dog; 04/18/21 12:13 PM.

Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246098
04/18/21 12:13 PM
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The police chief, a captain, and 2 training officers all said that when he was handcuffed he should have been rolled over on his side. That is what they stated was how the officers are trained to handle the situation.

Last edited by rex123; 04/18/21 12:14 PM.
Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: wetdog] #7246115
04/18/21 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Just where in the world is it OK to kneel on someone’s neck? How many times have you done that in your life and it was OK, would you do it on friends and family members if it’s OK?

I’ve had countless hours of training in juvenile and adult restraints it’s never been a acceptable policy but you talking heads just keep going! LOL

And your not a Minnesota cop.
If you would have bothered to look, like others on here and the MSM
Y'all would know that is how Minneapolis popo handled those things.
Oh yea. They changed the rule that evening
So keep on saying he was wrong
It only proves you are like most
ONLY READ THE F....IN HEADLINES


I have 30+ years of State and Federal training what do you have going for you? SMH thinking back to my juvenile worker days I even trained in Mnpls years back you ever been there?

Last edited by Law Dog; 04/18/21 01:06 PM.

Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246129
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On a positive note no pregnent women were robbed at gunpoint by George this week.

Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246139
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I thought that he had the knee on the shoulders the majority of the time. I have no issue even to a knee on the neck. The issue for me was that when Floyd was subdued they never let off of him.
Oh for the days before Rodney King. Floyd would have ended up with a heck of a headache but more than likely would have still been moving. It's getting to where cops are restrained from subduing and restraining perps. It's to the point that an officer has to not do their job and let them run or put a few slugs into them.


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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246148
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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246154
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I’m no Floyd fan for sure, I’m more concerned about that Officer in Chicago, they are making that 13yr old kid running around with a gun at 2:30 in the morning running from a shooting out to be a innocent angel. The MSM is a joke today zero professionalism in what they do but people see what they want to see and ignore what they don’t want to see and hear.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246158
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The mixture of fentanyl, meth, and crack and whatever else he was on didn't have anything to do with his cardiac arrest.


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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246159
04/18/21 02:26 PM
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It all did it’s just smart to not add to it is all let nature takes it course then don’t add doubt.


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Re: Inciting a riot/jury intimidation? [Re: corky] #7246160
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bad situation which will keep getting worse


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