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The mask debate is over. #7247240
04/19/21 08:26 PM
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Peer reviewed science. In my opinion anyone with an IQ above 5 already knew this....but its not even debatable now. I urge everyone to read this, and in the years to come remember how the government and MSM lied to you. Over and over again. And some of you bought it, without questions, and called anyone who questioned the narrative a conspiracy nut. This study sheds light on a lot of things covid related, including the fact that its about as dangerous as the flu.
https://www.scribd.com/document/503...hngEU4hfvMDCkPJQunCe0ckLp9r4A#from_embed


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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247244
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Peer reviewed science. In my opinion anyone with an IQ above 5 already knew this....but its not even debatable now. I urge everyone to read this, and in the years to come remember how the government and MSM lied to you. Over and over again. And some of you bought it, without questions, and called anyone who questioned the narrative a conspiracy nut. This study sheds light on a lot of things covid related, including the fact that its about as dangerous as the flu.
https://www.scribd.com/document/503...hngEU4hfvMDCkPJQunCe0ckLp9r4A#from_embed




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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: patrapperbuster] #7247248
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
Originally Posted by yukon254
Peer reviewed science. In my opinion anyone with an IQ above 5 already knew this....but its not even debatable now. I urge everyone to read this, and in the years to come remember how the government and MSM lied to you. Over and over again. And some of you bought it, without questions, and called anyone who questioned the narrative a conspiracy nut. This study sheds light on a lot of things covid related, including the fact that its about as dangerous as the flu.
https://www.scribd.com/document/503...hngEU4hfvMDCkPJQunCe0ckLp9r4A#from_embed




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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247249
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Lots of sheep out there.

Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247250
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a one author paper in a no name journal?

100% one person's opinion and untested hypothesis

You cant be serious!

Last edited by ILcooner; 04/19/21 08:35 PM.
Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7247252
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Lots of sheep out there.




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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: ILcooner] #7247253
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
a one author paper in a no name journal?

100% one person's opinion.

You cant be serious!

Please provide us with one non-politically motivated "expert" who can refute it.

Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247254
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Like a ping pong ball moving through an open 7'X7' window as comparison to a "Covid" virus passing through the weave of a standard mask.
Masks cause more respiratory disease than going without. Useless IMO!

Chris


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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: AntiGov] #7247255
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Lots of sheep out there.




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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: Hodagtrapper] #7247256
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Originally Posted by Hodagtrapper
Like a ping pong ball moving through an open 7'X7' window as comparison to a "Covid" virus passing through the weave of a standard mask.
Masks cause more respiratory disease than going without. Useless IMO!

Chris



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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247265
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I was in Menards in Lawrence Saturday with my son. We built a book case for his daughter. Had a cart full of odds and ends. Went to pay and the cashier says if we dont mask up she wont ring us out. We had already walked around in there for probably an hour. So I said "We have been shopping in here for an hour without masks. No one said a word. But if we put masks on for the 3-4 minutes it will take you to ring us up we can pay"? She said "you should have put masks on when you came in. There is a sign." So I said," no thanks we will leave." Now she is mad. I guess she didnt want to put all the stuff we had in that cart back up. She yells at me. "Just what makes you think you can just walk around without a mask" So I am getting irritated and I answer "I am a free American". Now a woman I think is a supervisor joins in. Remember I wanted to leave. She say's "I don't understand why you wont do something as simple as put a mask on." So I informed her I wasn't a democrat and whether she liked it or not I am not wearing a mask and I am leaving." She was really mad then. I couldn't understand her as we walked out.

Went next door to home depot. Bought everything we needed. Everyone was polite.


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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: ILcooner] #7247268
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
a one author paper in a no name journal?

100% one person's opinion and untested hypothesis

You cant be serious!

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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247269
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I read it on the internet, everything on the internet is true, Abraham Lincoln said so.

Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: danny clifton] #7247270
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I was in Menards in Lawrence Saturday with my son. We built a book case for his daughter. Had a cart full of odds and ends. Went to pay and the cashier says if we dont mask up she wont ring us out. We had already walked around in there for probably an hour. So I said "We have been shopping in here for an hour without masks. No one said a word. But if we put masks on for the 3-4 minutes it will take you to ring us up we can pay"? She said "you should have put masks on when you came in. There is a sign." So I said," no thanks we will leave." Now she is mad. I guess she didnt want to put all the stuff we had in that cart back up. She yells at me. "Just what makes you think you can just walk around without a mask" So I am getting irritated and I answer "I am a free American". Now a woman I think is a supervisor joins in. Remember I wanted to leave. She say's "I don't understand why you wont do something as simple as put a mask on." So I informed her I wasn't a democrat and whether she liked it or not I am not wearing a mask and I am leaving." She was really mad then. I couldn't understand her as we walked out.

Went next door to home depot. Bought everything we needed. Everyone was polite.





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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: ILcooner] #7247277
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
a one author paper in a no name journal?

100% one person's opinion and untested hypothesis

You cant be serious!


you sayin' Fauci wrote it?


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247291
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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247298
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I smell sheep


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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247302
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OSHA, a Federal agency, says I must wear a respirator while cutting concrete to prevent the inhalation of silica dust which is visible to the naked eye. The CDC, another Federal agency, says I should wear a face mask to prevent the inhalation of a microscopic virus. Before OSHA required a respirator for cutting concrete I would wear a face mask but still end up with concrete boogers. Which Federal agency is telling the truth?


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Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: yukon254] #7247313
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You have to remember they are selling masking as one way protection, protecting those around you, not yourself. Protecting yourself would be selfish. The protect others logic makes it easier to shame people into wearing masks.

Re: The mask debate is over. [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7247314
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Lots of sheep out there.



ILcooner should change his name to ILsheeper

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