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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: strike2x] #7247702
04/20/21 10:37 AM
04/20/21 10:37 AM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by strike2x
I will be trapping next season for sure. Due to all the money people got from the government and unemployment I was to busy to trap last season. I did set a few out at times but this year,thanks to all the work I have had, I will be trapping at least the whole month of November and part of December. I won't send fur in anymore since the NAFA deal. I will sell go Trevor Barnes and get a fair price judge by quality of fur I produce. I am doi g this as a vacation a d any money made will just be a bonus. The more guys that don't trap the better for me so by all means, keep those traps in the shed this coming season. I think a lot of trappers a afraid to ship fur and don't know where else to turn besides GFW and they pay poorly compared to Barnes. Good luck to all of you that decide to trap. Critters still need to be thinned out in most places or we will have problems later.


And this is why the prices will never advance. Why pay anything when they are pleased with just a little gas money? You are helping to get rid of the fur industry and don't even realize it. Less trappers means less of those who can defend the way of life. Less fur means they will use something else. This industry in a whole is in big trouble. As for thinning of critters, well what is wrong with getting paid to do that? It may be the only thing paying in the trapping world before long. Oh well carry on. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247706
04/20/21 10:39 AM
04/20/21 10:39 AM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Originally Posted by Oley
[quote=GARY M.]Where GFW was paying 3 to 5 for southern raccoon, FHA paid between 1 and 2.50.

No, actually GWF pays the same to everyone. Bring in first week blue coon and you get $3. Bring in your nice prime stuff later on you get the same. He does not buy on quality, he buys on average. It does not pay to sell your higher quality coon to GWF.

Looks like it dont pay to sell your higher quality coon thru FHA.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7247730
04/20/21 11:31 AM
04/20/21 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by strike2x
I will be trapping next season for sure. Due to all the money people got from the government and unemployment I was to busy to trap last season. I did set a few out at times but this year,thanks to all the work I have had, I will be trapping at least the whole month of November and part of December. I won't send fur in anymore since the NAFA deal. I will sell go Trevor Barnes and get a fair price judge by quality of fur I produce. I am doi g this as a vacation a d any money made will just be a bonus. The more guys that don't trap the better for me so by all means, keep those traps in the shed this coming season. I think a lot of trappers a afraid to ship fur and don't know where else to turn besides GFW and they pay poorly compared to Barnes. Good luck to all of you that decide to trap. Critters still need to be thinned out in most places or we will have problems later.


And this is why the prices will never advance. Why pay anything when they are pleased with just a little gas money? You are helping to get rid of the fur industry and don't even realize it. Less trappers means less of those who can defend the way of life. Less fur means they will use something else. This industry in a whole is in big trouble. As for thinning of critters, well what is wrong with getting paid to do that? It may be the only thing paying in the trapping world before long. Oh well carry on. LLL

If I quit trapping then all is already lost
There is a big difference between the hobby trapper putting a few pelts on the market and a professional trapper putting a thousand or more coon on the market himself
Some people trap solely for money and others for pleasure some a little of both
A one size fits all solution is not out there


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247731
04/20/21 11:32 AM
04/20/21 11:32 AM
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MN
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It dont pay to sell any quality coon anywhere right now. Imagine being an auction house where 1/2 the shippers are complaining that you sold too cheap while the other half complains that they have fur sitting there for 2-3 years.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247738
04/20/21 11:45 AM
04/20/21 11:45 AM
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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7247804
04/20/21 01:38 PM
04/20/21 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by strike2x
I will be trapping next season for sure. Due to all the money people got from the government and unemployment I was to busy to trap last season. I did set a few out at times but this year,thanks to all the work I have had, I will be trapping at least the whole month of November and part of December. I won't send fur in anymore since the NAFA deal. I will sell go Trevor Barnes and get a fair price judge by quality of fur I produce. I am doi g this as a vacation a d any money made will just be a bonus. The more guys that don't trap the better for me so by all means, keep those traps in the shed this coming season. I think a lot of trappers a afraid to ship fur and don't know where else to turn besides GFW and they pay poorly compared to Barnes. Good luck to all of you that decide to trap. Critters still need to be thinned out in most places or we will have problems later.


And this is why the prices will never advance. Why pay anything when they are pleased with just a little gas money? You are helping to get rid of the fur industry and don't even realize it. Less trappers means less of those who can defend the way of life. Less fur means they will use something else. This industry in a whole is in big trouble. As for thinning of critters, well what is wrong with getting paid to do that? It may be the only thing paying in the trapping world before long. Oh well carry on. LLL


Larry, you don't suppose part of the reason the coon price doesn't advance is you Iowa boys didnt take a vacation the last three years or four years?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Oley] #7247821
04/20/21 01:57 PM
04/20/21 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Oley
Originally Posted by hippie


I figure this will quiet the Groeny bashers up for awhile.


No, actually GWF pays the same to everyone. Bring in first week blue coon and you get $3. Bring in your nice prime stuff later on you get the same. He does not buy on quality, he buys on average. It does not pay to sell your higher quality coon to GWF.


So what's your excuse for the dismal auction prices???

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247826
04/20/21 01:58 PM
04/20/21 01:58 PM
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I would like to see a NAFA type organization be created again but probably won't happen. Have it be for wild fur only for trappers. I took great care putting up my fur and it paid off in many top lots which made my day. When I went to the ITA convention in the fall the NAFA agent gave me a free hat, pin and tee shirt. These days if I sell to locally extra nice pelts get no more pay than shoddy put up pelts. So I sat out last season as I was still upset with the bad NAFA check of a couple years ago. Such a rotten deal not not getting paid anything and then the rubber check bank charges. If only NAFA had ben run for wild fur only. It was run by trappers but they made a mistake and let ranch fur in. Thank you for your time.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bodycount] #7247851
04/20/21 02:37 PM
04/20/21 02:37 PM
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Ontario
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Originally Posted by bodycount
I would like to see a NAFA type organization be created again but probably won't happen. Have it be for wild fur only for trappers. I took great care putting up my fur and it paid off in many top lots which made my day. When I went to the ITA convention in the fall the NAFA agent gave me a free hat, pin and tee shirt. These days if I sell to locally extra nice pelts get no more pay than shoddy put up pelts. So I sat out last season as I was still upset with the bad NAFA check of a couple years ago. Such a rotten deal not not getting paid anything and then the rubber check bank charges. If only NAFA had ben run for wild fur only. It was run by trappers but they made a mistake and let ranch fur in. Thank you for your time.


Was this suppose to be tongue in cheek?
You literally just described FHA........just saying.

Older article but you get the idea

https://www.northernontariobusiness...hub-of-10m-fur-trade-industry-303-363736

Last edited by Saskfly; 04/20/21 02:43 PM.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247896
04/20/21 03:36 PM
04/20/21 03:36 PM
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So better coon sold for what ? $15 top ?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7247906
04/20/21 03:45 PM
04/20/21 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
So better coon sold for what ? $15 top ?


Auctions have more "piles" than country buyers so tops means squat to someone who sends a collection. Average is most important when someone gives one on their whole collection.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7247926
04/20/21 04:10 PM
04/20/21 04:10 PM
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They didn't sell alot of coon so there is no accurate average price, I believe FHA told me over a year ago there is no pt room sales but there is, sound to me the low price of sales were either from shoppers complain about not sell it FHA need move stuff to make money an sold cheap last summer late, or both, groenwold told me a month ago that last summer that no coon were selling an if did a coon go price was a couple bucks

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Steven 49er] #7247970
04/20/21 05:16 PM
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northern michigan
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And this is why the prices will never advance. Why pay anything when they are pleased with just a little gas money? You are helping to get rid of the fur industry and don't even realize it. Less trappers means less of those who can defend the way of life. Less fur means they will use something else. This industry in a whole is in big trouble. As for thinning of critters, well what is wrong with getting paid to do that? It may be the only thing paying in the trapping world before long. Oh well carry on. LLL[/quote]

Larry, you don't suppose part of the reason the coon price doesn't advance is you Iowa boys didnt take a vacation the last three years or four years?
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Kinda like some diary farmers I know. They complain about barely breaking even with low milk prices, but they keep adding cows! Like digging a hole to put dirt in...

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248035
04/20/21 06:48 PM
04/20/21 06:48 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by sjc


Larry, you don't suppose part of the reason the coon price doesn't advance is you Iowa boys didnt take a vacation the last three years or four years?


Kinda like some diary farmers I know. They complain about barely breaking even with low milk prices, but they keep adding cows! Like digging a hole to put dirt in...[/quote]

Did not trap a single coon this season and probably won't until they get this mess dealt with. The market was still decent and I was told by GFW and FHA that it looked like things were going to get better when I trapped these coon. I trapped them all before Dec. 15 2020 way before the China flu. At the time I was trapping they were seeing 12.00 averages in the country. By the time my coon were ready to sell the crap had hit the fan. It takes a few weeks to scrape a thousand coon. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7248052
04/20/21 07:01 PM
04/20/21 07:01 PM
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East-Central Wisconsin
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Dairy farmers are looking at nearly $20 milk now and for the near future with premiums. That will be countered by $6 corn and nearly $15 beans on the board for the near term. Commodities usually correlate quite highly but with the COVID shut down more essential commodities like oil, lumber, food, feed, minerals etc. go up quickly, fur is a commodity but not nearly as essential and we will just need to wait our turn and what we don't know is when will it be our turn again and what will be included.

Bryce

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248138
04/20/21 08:04 PM
04/20/21 08:04 PM
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Dairy farmers are looking at nearly $20 milk now and for the near future with premiums. That will be countered by $6 corn and nearly $15 beans on the board for the near term. Commodities usually correlate quite highly but with the COVID shut down more essential commodities like oil, lumber, food, feed, minerals etc. go up quickly, fur is a commodity but not nearly as essential and we will just need to wait our turn and what we don't know is when will it be our turn again and what will be included.

Bryce

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bodycount] #7248153
04/20/21 08:13 PM
04/20/21 08:13 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by bodycount
I would like to see a NAFA type organization be created again but probably won't happen. Have it be for wild fur only for trappers. I took great care putting up my fur and it paid off in many top lots which made my day. When I went to the ITA convention in the fall the NAFA agent gave me a free hat, pin and tee shirt. These days if I sell to locally extra nice pelts get no more pay than shoddy put up pelts. So I sat out last season as I was still upset with the bad NAFA check of a couple years ago. Such a rotten deal not not getting paid anything and then the rubber check bank charges. If only NAFA had ben run for wild fur only. It was run by trappers but they made a mistake and let ranch fur in. Thank you for your time.


Sure they do. GFW always has a top lot. One at 15 and the rest at 3 and some no value. It really is the same except you don't get a fancy certificate and a stupid hat. I have enough top lot certificates I could wallpaper my shop. It used to mean something but now they hand them out like participation trophies. I had a coon in the top lot of the last internet sale that sold for 25.00 and they never even sent me my certificate. The postage was as much as their commission I guess. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248224
04/20/21 09:19 PM
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More results just posted.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248239
04/20/21 09:55 PM
04/20/21 09:55 PM
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Just avreged 1.70 US 579 large -1x squiral. Thats over 2$ can heck hasent been thst good for many years.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: crosspatch] #7248245
04/20/21 09:58 PM
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I will trap next year for sure. When it comes to coon I will do so to keep my farmer land owners satisfied that I will remove them, even if they don't wind up being sold. There is a sense of responsibility at times when land owner have let you trap their property for 40 plus years. As to rats, yes that will happen. I am watching a lot of the smaller sloughs dry up all ready. We need some moisture or we will have a lot of what has been good rat habitat the last two years dry and dry early.

Bryce

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