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Stand your ground #7248351
04/21/21 12:50 AM
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Becomes law August 1st here in ND, added to our castle doctrine..


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248380
04/21/21 05:46 AM
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The law is what the media says it is. I wouldn’t count on that one keeping you out of prison if you shoot someone.


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248382
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Seems strange that defending you and yours needs protection by law.

Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248396
04/21/21 06:33 AM
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Passed here in Arkansas too.

Re: Stand your ground [Re: trapdog1] #7248406
04/21/21 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Seems strange that defending you and yours needs protection by law.

Welcome to 2021.

Ohio's stand your ground law just went into effect

Re: Stand your ground [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7248428
04/21/21 07:24 AM
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I find it very encouraging that more states are passing constitutional carry, castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. It's almost like they're flipping off the federal government.

Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
The law is what the media says it is. I wouldn’t count on that one keeping you out of prison if you shoot someone.


Pennsylvania's castle doctrine has been the deciding factor in a number of shooting cases that I am aware of. Mostly as a factor in the decision not to prosecute but also as a successful defense against overzealous prosecutors.

A notable case happened about ten years ago when three teens (two 15 and one 16 year old) skipped school for a day of mugging. They mugged a couple before attacking a 65 year old on a bicycle trail. Knocked him off his bike and were pummeling him when he drew a licensed weapon and shot two of the attackers.

One died, another was severely injured. The survivors were prosecuted.

The shooting was ruled self-defense and justified under the castle doctrine.


Eh...wot?

Re: Stand your ground [Re: Lugnut] #7248431
04/21/21 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I find it very encouraging that more states are passing constitutional carry, castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. It's almost like they're flipping off the federal government.

Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
The law is what the media says it is. I wouldn’t count on that one keeping you out of prison if you shoot someone.


Pennsylvania's castle doctrine has been the deciding factor in a number of shooting cases that I am aware of. Mostly as a factor in the decision not to prosecute but also as a successful defense against overzealous prosecutors.

A notable case happened about ten years ago when three teens (two 15 and one 16 year old) skipped school for a day of mugging. They mugged a couple before attacking a 65 year old on a bicycle trail. Knocked him off his bike and were pummeling him when he drew a licensed weapon and shot two of the attackers.

One died, another was severely injured. The survivors were prosecuted.

The shooting was ruled self-defense and justified under the castle doctrine.


A lot has happened in 10 years.

On another note, I need a couple reds. You got any laying around?


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248453
04/21/21 07:55 AM
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I wish I could help you out but no reds. Due to market factors and other considerations I didn't trap last season for the first time in decades. I sold all my reds to a furrier at the end of the 2019-20 season.

I do have some coyote in cold storage. They are skinned with feet and toenails on for tanning.

Interested?


Eh...wot?

Re: Stand your ground [Re: Lugnut] #7248458
04/21/21 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I wish I could help you out but no reds. Due to market factors and other considerations I didn't trap last season for the first time in decades. I sold all my reds to a furrier at the end of the 2019-20 season.

I do have some coyote in cold storage. They are skinned with feet and toenails on for tanning.

Interested?


Nah. Just need reds to complete a project. Thanks anyway.


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248474
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The court of public opinion is getting out of control.

Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248716
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Re: Stand your ground [Re: trapdog1] #7248727
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Seems strange that defending you and yours needs protection by law.


Well we are a nation of laws..


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7248740
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
The law is what the media says it is. I wouldn’t count on that one keeping you out of prison if you shoot someone.


God forbid I'm ever in the situation where I have to make that decision but having common sense laws that protect you is a good thing. This is fly over country the media don't much matter here.
There's only two things you say to the police in that situation "I feared for my life and I want to speak to my attorney" anymore than that you're setting your self up for prosecution..

Oh, and thanks for the attempted highjacking of my thread...

Last edited by grumley701; 04/21/21 02:10 PM.

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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248746
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Absolutely meaningless in light of yesterday's verdict. If the woke left and media decide whatever you did is wrong they will dictate the verdict.


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248797
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Grumly you put it just like it should be. We have that law and even the officers when you discuss it with them will tell you to make the exact same response. They also point out don't shoot them in the back unless you are behind them and they are attacking someone else.


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248823
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
The law is what the media says it is. I wouldn’t count on that one keeping you out of prison if you shoot someone.


God forbid I'm ever in the situation where I have to make that decision but having common sense laws that protect you is a good thing. This is fly over country the media don't much matter here.
There's only two things you say to the police in that situation "I feared for my life and I want to speak to my attorney" anymore than that you're setting your self up for prosecution..

Oh, and thanks for the attempted highjacking of my thread...


Hijacked?


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248837
04/21/21 04:35 PM
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You guys that think the law will save you aren't paying attention.


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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248899
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Invest in a gun incident lawyer/insurance.
I have great coverage through US Law Shield. Includes coverage for any legal weapon, you can add kids, and other things to the policy

Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248904
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Re: Stand your ground [Re: grumley701] #7248989
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Don't trust it. It only works if you know someone in higher places. Might want to have a very good attorney. Eager prosecutors out there making a name for themselves at innocent law abiding citizens expense. Sarge


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