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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248580
04/21/21 10:44 AM
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This is absolutely how it works. Good post Boco.


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248581
04/21/21 10:44 AM
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I can assure you that by referring to those of us that aren't members as "whining losers" you've probably lost more than you've gained. That being said I won't join the NTA for the reasons it can't be discussed on this forum. I do believe I still have a picture of the Pie Chart.

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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248586
04/21/21 10:48 AM
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I could probably find as many reasons to not join an organization(s) as I could to join. I choose to join as many as I can. Of the organizations that I do belong to, of course there are some things that I don't always agree with, but by and large I find that (as Boco posted) numbers do matter. And, like it or not, there is strength in those numbers. There is no reason to feel shamed into join anything. If you don't want to join, then don't join, that's your prerogative. By the same token, please don't complain if and when any of us lose any rights to do the things we like to do.


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248603
04/21/21 11:19 AM
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Come on now let's hear more reasons your not a member.


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: Boco] #7248609
04/21/21 11:26 AM
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soo true ,numbers matter, I'm in NRA , OSTA, you talked in to it, I will look into joining NTA.

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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248615
04/21/21 11:34 AM
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I'm for shaming anyone who says what are they doing for me


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: jeff karsten] #7248655
04/21/21 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
I'm for shaming anyone who says what are they doing for me


I believe the concern in the past has been what they're not doing, with a large sum of money.


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248714
04/21/21 01:43 PM
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Danny, Which Officers are the same as the Solliman/Wills era ( I assume that is the Era you are refering to) if I am wrong please correct me either here or via PM.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248744
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I just joined NTA a month or 2 ago. I also belong to our state organization. Now I'm not sure I should have joined NTA after reading some of the posts. I didn't do any research on them before joining, just assumed they are a group that needs my money to fight the antis. Mr. Daniel's letter, in my opinion, is a very poor way to gain new membership. In fact, had that letter been sent before I joined, there is a good chance I wouldn't have joined.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248762
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Sure are a lot of easily offended people on here. I never thought a bunch of grown (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) men could be so distracted by a couple of words. I say distracted because as Boco said, the only thing that matters is numbers.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: Hoosier71] #7248832
04/21/21 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoosier71
Sure are a lot of easily offended people on here. I never thought a bunch of grown (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) men could be so distracted by a couple of words. I say distracted because as Boco said, the only thing that matters is numbers.


There's plenty of organizations for strength in numbers. I don't think anyone has said they're not part of a trapping organization. Some of us just don't support a certain one. Are you a member of Nebraska's trapping association Hoosier? By your reasoning you should be. I mean it would increase our numbers here in Nebraska. All we should care about is numbers. I'd hope you support every state association there is. We need those numbers.

My reasoning (not that it matters or I should have to defend it being as though it's my money) involves the issues from years ago. I prefer to see my money go where I can see it is used to benefit the cause I am supporting.

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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WadeRyan] #7248845
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
Originally Posted by Hoosier71
Sure are a lot of easily offended people on here. I never thought a bunch of grown (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) men could be so distracted by a couple of words. I say distracted because as Boco said, the only thing that matters is numbers.


There's plenty of organizations for strength in numbers. I don't think anyone has said they're not part of a trapping organization. Some of us just don't support a certain one. Are you a member of Nebraska's trapping association Hoosier? By your reasoning you should be. I mean it would increase our numbers here in Nebraska. All we should care about is numbers. I'd hope you support every state association there is. We need those numbers.

My reasoning (not that it matters or I should have to defend it being as though it's my money) involves the issues from years ago. I prefer to see my money go where I can see it is used to benefit the cause I am supporting.



No I couldn't afford to even if I wanted to and I know not many on here could afford to either. Just 2 national and my state. You know that's not what I meant. Of course if we were all millionaires yes we should join every state and sign up our family in friends too.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248848
04/21/21 04:52 PM
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Well, maybe not every trapper can afford to pay the national dues. Does that make them "whiny losers?" Some people could afford to be a members of all of them. I can't imagine they'd be able to unless they only invested their money in things that show results. I'm still digging for that pie chart of just how much a certain organization spent on trappers. Hint it wasn't much. Lot of pockets were padded at the top.

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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248850
04/21/21 04:58 PM
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Lobbying government aint cheap.Hotel rooms meals etc all add up for the officers/directors attending the capitol and meeting with the politicians/lawmakers.
But its the best money spent by far-You know-an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.A bit late when it is in the courts.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248871
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For those that are/ were offended by Mr. Daniel's letter, why don't you contact him and share your feelings? For my money, the NTA is the best bang I can ever hope to get for my buck(s). I am not able to attend all the meetings John Daniels or the other board members do. I am not able to keep tabs on all the anti-trapping issues these folks try to deal with. And...I sure can't lobby on either a national or local level for my best interests or yours, when it comes to trapping. For my One Year NTA Membership of $30, or about $0.82 a day, I think I get a lot of benefit and representation and I will continue to support the NTA.


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7248913
04/21/21 06:02 PM
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anybody got a pie chart for 2020?


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WadeRyan] #7249166
04/21/21 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
Well, maybe not every trapper can afford to pay the national dues. Does that make them "whiny losers?" Some people could afford to be a members of all of them. I can't imagine they'd be able to unless they only invested their money in things that show results. I'm still digging for that pie chart of just how much a certain organization spent on trappers. Hint it wasn't much. Lot of pockets were padded at the top.


No of course not. If someone somehow managed to take what I said to mean they should take food from their plate to join an orgnization, I apologize.

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7249189
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I don't think the OP was calling anyone a "whining Loser", he was just trying to get your alls attention. As mentioned earlier numbers do count or the squeaky wheel will get the grease!


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Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: James] #7249270
04/22/21 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by danny clifton
many of the same people are still officers james


Well, that says a lot. Think I'll pass for the time being.

Jim



Again????

Which Officers are still in Office?

Re: Trappers a Bunch of whining losers! [Re: LDW] #7249311
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Originally Posted by LDW
I just joined NTA a month or 2 ago. I also belong to our state organization. Now I'm not sure I should have joined NTA after reading some of the posts. I didn't do any research on them before joining, just assumed they are a group that needs my money to fight the antis. Mr. Daniel's letter, in my opinion, is a very poor way to gain new membership. In fact, had that letter been sent before I joined, there is a good chance I wouldn't have joined.


Well said! I joined around the same time and am wishing I'd have done more research now.

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