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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250363
04/23/21 04:29 PM
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LLtrapper.. A civil question.Why are you so concerned for the rest of us who deal with FHA?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: grampy] #7250375
04/23/21 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by grampy
LLtrapper.. A civil question.Why are you so concerned for the rest of us who deal with FHA?


Where do you come up with the notion I am concerned for others who deal with FHA? If someone does you wrong do you keep it to yourself or bring it up so they can determine for themselves? The for sale in the fur shed has all kinds of bad dealings. Should that stop because some might not like it? Some like getting lied to. Others make excuses for that sort of behavior or ignore it because it did not happen to them and others like me let others hear what happened and so they can decide for themselves. Civil question.. Which one are you? LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250378
04/23/21 04:58 PM
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Hippie- thats more like me trying to get bottom lot anymore. Most remain unsold.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250383
04/23/21 05:11 PM
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Well the earlier pt sales were horrid but upon view catalogs, I wish I would ship to them awhile ago but it would been for next sale, to late for April one, groenwold pay not far from FHA prices after commission on rats n mink an beaver, but on coon I had there 5 wks ago aft groenwold stop, I say he made out very well on $7.19 average after view catalogs, I guess 60 per cent this good region coon would sold an made out lot better, but not all sell plus wait an would been for FHA summer sale, I need extra cash for pickup in shop 10 times this year as hard bank acct, maybe next season FHA, I don't think $7.20 average was near enough for them coon had , plus all negative talk on FHA , maybe next season, used get some high coon averages from nafa around this area

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250388
04/23/21 05:18 PM
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LLtrapper. I don't like getting lied to and have no problem with exposing the lie. I would try and make my point, decide if I want to deal there anymore and then,

having made my point would consider it's up to "each his own" and leave the issue alone.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7250392
04/23/21 05:23 PM
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The international auction was not nearly as optimistic on xl size rats or 2xl-3xl rats that were falls or even light winters and slights. The tops moved a lot. I had 3 $6 rats in September and those were $8.70 this sale. My heavy xl and semi 2xl-3xl PT sold for $3.50 and $4.00. I had mediums near that this round. The buyers that were paying $6 , 4 and 2 knew where the market was especially when the a very high percentage could find their way into the $2 piles. We will see how July goes. Probably won't be a lot of rats there cut will be interesting to see how the 2xl, xl and large sell. I only have 10 and should have 8 winters and a couple springs.

Bryce

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250400
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From look at catalogs, on FHA, which is first time ever, I not real smart an up this as never went FHA, everthing I sold a month ago would done just little better , rats guess 25 to 50 cents higher, mink 10 to 50 cents higher , beaver also a buck or $3 more depend, but coon I had, some would been 6 bucks more an some $2 or $3 more, I guess would gotten $3-$400 more on not that much stuff , I know shouldn't sold coon, but big collection adds up, but noway I want associated with last year pt sales, so who was pt sales buyers? that way I see it on the April sale, no idea on future, hopefully give FHA a try next season, local buyer convient an check on spot where as here a long wait for money an always risk, then buy backs ,maybe FHA a year from now, long while wait , how long after sale u wait for check direct deposit ? What I don't get is why buyers travel south an there stuff worth nearly same or same here, not try make noone mad reading this, local buyer is cash on spot, no wait , So i guess have shut up an give FHA a try if can next season

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7250536
04/23/21 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
From look at catalogs, on FHA, which is first time ever, I not real smart an up this as never went FHA, everthing I sold a month ago would done just little better , rats guess 25 to 50 cents higher, mink 10 to 50 cents higher , beaver also a buck or $3 more depend, but coon I had, some would been 6 bucks more an some $2 or $3 more, I guess would gotten $3-$400 more on not that much stuff , I know shouldn't sold coon, but big collection adds up, but noway I want associated with last year pt sales, so who was pt sales buyers? that way I see it on the April sale, no idea on future, hopefully give FHA a try next season, local buyer convient an check on spot where as here a long wait for money an always risk, then buy backs ,maybe FHA a year from now, long while wait , how long after sale u wait for check direct deposit ? What I don't get is why buyers travel south an there stuff worth nearly same or same here, not try make noone mad reading this, local buyer is cash on spot, no wait , So i guess have shut up an give FHA a try if can next season

Coonman,
13% of more than 102,000 coons sold on this sale. You are more optimistic on the coon than Boco is on the otters.

If you ship to FHA....hope you can wait for your $$ for a year or 2.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250543
04/23/21 09:04 PM
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WissMiss was pretty plain. She said she had no idea if FHA would do as they say and no PT sales or not. I don't blame her on that, they have proven time and again their word is unreliable on that. Buyers and sellers both know it. Don't shoot the messenger though, she is just informing everyone what FHA said.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250586
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From looks catalog an the heavy northern an north Central coon , compare what sold to what I had, comparing grading old nafa grading acct sales, I say lot mine would sold, guess maybe 60 per cent , better coon sold in 3 xl up an good color 2xl an some 1-11 even plus in 2xl in more off colors, price drop substantional from select grade down, they sold slt damage, had very few them but few in bigger size, the unsold stuff is not good , if u can wait for money I's it, I be all for FHA, pt sales because pandemic months ago were terrible

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bearcat2] #7250612
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
WissMiss was pretty plain. She said she had no idea if FHA would do as they say and no PT sales or not. I don't blame her on that, they have proven time and again their word is unreliable on that. Buyers and sellers both know it. Don't shoot the messenger though, she is just informing everyone what FHA said.


Pretty sure Gibb already explained it,but I will try again.
When FHA said they wouldnt offer any fur PT they meant right after the sale to the buyers that did not bid on the auction floor.Not that they would not offer PT fur between sales after a cooling off after the sale in question.
In other words it would not be available immediately after the auction.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250636
04/24/21 12:05 AM
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Seems like the auction process is working across the pond.
Kopenhagen fur.
Brown velvet males.
September 2020. 695000 offered $24.80 average. 99% sold
February 2021. 410000 offered $50.10 average. 100% sold
April 2021. 540000 offered. $57.90 average. 100% sold.

Itís ranch fur. Which for some reason supports the auction process. The volume even with the pelt outs is overwhelming.

I would expect this momentum to impact wild fur. It certainly did upon reversal.

Disappointed in the lag time.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250649
04/24/21 12:30 AM
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Kopenhagen March 2019 Total skins 5,546,810
Kopenhagen May 2019 Total skins 6,891,648
Kopenhagen April 2020 Total skins 3,495,289
Kopenhagen September 2020 Total skins 6,501,258
Kopenhagen April 2021 Total skins 1,338,123

Kind of a shortage

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250650
04/24/21 12:37 AM
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Yes which is even more reason for optimism.

Not sure why fha stalled.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250658
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What Boco said about PT sales at FH has been true at some sales in the past.

In the case of the just completed auction, the buyer rules clearly state that any unsold goods will be moved forward to the July auction. No Private Treat sales after the auction.

Iím just repeat what the rules say. I have no idea if FH will follow their own rules or not.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7250659
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
What Boco said about PT sales at FH has been true at some sales in the past.

In the case of the just completed auction, the buyer rules clearly state that any unsold goods will be moved forward to the July auction. No Private Treat sales after the auction.

Iím just repeat what the rules say. I have no idea if FH will follow their own rules or not.


Sorry if I was unclear. I was just stating I appreciated you informing us what FH said to buyers. And reiterating that you had already answered LL's question, that you did not know if FH would go back on their word to not PT before the July sale. And that I fully understand your stance, you are not part of FH and can't know if they will "follow their own rules or not."

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250667
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I had high hopes for this place when I sent to them for the first time last January. I really really wanted to believe in FHA. I got completely screwed scammed and mistreated. Now I see why I never have sent anything to them before. And I'm pretty certain I never will again. The more I look at the sales sheet the grades, the commission, the private treaty backroom deals. The more dissapointed I am


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250676
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Bearcat2 - my most recent post was in response to Bocoís post, which is just below yours. Had nothing to do with your most recent post. Sorry for the confusion.

BTW - I appreciate what you said in your most recent post. Thank you. smile. smile.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250713
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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250749
04/24/21 08:31 AM
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Wissmiss I see you called it the "Private Treat" sales. Was that a slip or is that what you all call it? Thought that was rich. LLL


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