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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250752
04/24/21 08:34 AM
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That would be a fat finger mistake. LOL. Though it is an interesting name................


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250776
04/24/21 09:03 AM
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you guys are crazy wissmiss is a buyer that wants to see them stick around so she can buy if she wants to why would she want to say bad things about them you shippers gave up all rights to your furs when you gave them to them they can give them away sell them pt throw them away they can do any thing they want and you guys are not going to change the past or the future they dont care what you say they will do what ever they want and you have no control what they do

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Joe1] #7250784
04/24/21 09:17 AM
04/24/21 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe1
you guys are crazy wissmiss is a buyer that wants to see them stick around so she can buy if she wants to why would she want to say bad things about them you shippers gave up all rights to your furs when you gave them to them they can give them away sell them pt throw them away they can do any thing they want and you guys are not going to change the past or the future they dont care what you say they will do what ever they want and you have no control what they do


You are as wrong as it gets when you say we cannot change the future. As said many times as people see how they have treated other shippers they MAY just change the way they do things when they figure out what they did to loose the faith in a true auction. You act like we want to see them go belly up. That is far from reality. They still have more of my fur up there than a lot of you catch in a decade. NAFA already showed us how that all works out. They sold stuff left over to pay their debts and gave the shippers nothing.

FHA to restore confidence and to get shippers to ship again need to restructure the way they do things to include doing what they say, Being more transparent with what they do to include update accounts, and get rid of PT sales after a day or two of the actual auction. I hope Downey reads this and thinks seriously about it. If not he will put on his golden parachute and bail like those in the boardroom of NAFA did. Quit selling our stuff cheap . Your decision lost you a lot of money and future shipments. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250785
04/24/21 09:18 AM
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Joe1. I believe, imo that Wissmiss has always been forthright in her posts .She buys on the floor and has on occasion bought PT.
You can sell to other buyers or wait until Nafa returns.You don't have to deal with FHA

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250788
04/24/21 09:20 AM
04/24/21 09:20 AM
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Joe you are right, once I ship, I give up control of what happens to my fur. That is why I do research before I ship, so I don't usually get burned. Lot of trappers seem to ship on the "hope" program. I ship on the" what's the worse they will do to me" program. When I don't trust them, I don't ship. Trappers with unrealistic expectations should not ship. IMO


Who is John Galt?
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250799
04/24/21 09:43 AM
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I have to say the grades I received were the toughest in the history of grades on my coon. Typical grading though, when prices are cheap the grade gets tougher.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250802
04/24/21 09:44 AM
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You are right Dirt.
Unfortunately with this world global market place "the goal post" can get moved very fast, not like it was 10 years ago.
Stick a ship in the mud and create a real ripple effect, especially with " just in time delivery" for assembly lines. Look at what it did with computer chips and car manufacturing.
a little hick-up in the coyote market and the manufacturing assembly lines will be short, so what do they do for next falls line-up of jackets
hopefully not change direction or we will loose that market !

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250819
04/24/21 10:16 AM
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They were always much smaller auction company, that why always went to nafa, if they loose lot bussiness, there small offerings well not attract many buyers, won't be place to go to, when u hear the kinda negative stuff on them on here posted, another reason didn't ship to them this season, I was think it ,what become groenwolds auction in Cambodia ?

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7250826
04/24/21 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
They were always much smaller auction company, that why always went to nafa, if they loose lot bussiness, there small offerings well not attract many buyers, won't be place to go to, when u hear the kinda negative stuff on them on here posted, another reason didn't ship to them this season, I was think it ,what become groenwolds auction in Cambodia ?


According to rumors; Pol Pot cancellation.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250842
04/24/21 11:01 AM
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What does that mean ?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250856
04/24/21 11:18 AM
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Dirt means groenys sale in cambodia was a "massacre"


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: coonman220] #7250859
04/24/21 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
They were always much smaller auction company, that why always went to nafa, if they loose lot bussiness, there small offerings well not attract many buyers, won't be place to go to, when u hear the kinda negative stuff on them on here posted, another reason didn't ship to them this season, I was think it ,what become groenwolds auction in Cambodia ?


I know a heck of a lot of trappers who would sooner burn their fur than sell to anywhere other than FHA.
They remember the old days.

Last edited by Boco; 04/24/21 11:21 AM.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250871
04/24/21 11:32 AM
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Boco - the problem with a lot of your posts, comments, theories, etc., is that you only see the situation from a Canadian perspective. And you think that applies to all North American Trappers. Well, it doesn’t!!

Truth be told, you don’t know diddly about United States Trappers. How they think. How they view Fur Harvesters. Etc. The only thing US trappers and Canadian Trappers have in common is that they are Trappers.

So get off your high horse and stop thinking you are the most informed person on this forum.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250873
04/24/21 11:36 AM
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laugh

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250884
04/24/21 11:43 AM
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laugh


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250885
04/24/21 11:46 AM
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Please, let’s not confuse one person’s perspective with an entire country’s perspective

It’s embarrassing

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7250888
04/24/21 11:47 AM
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You better back ff Boco Miss Wiss wants that title. LOL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Boco] #7250890
04/24/21 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Dirt means groenys sale in cambodia was a "massacre"

What happen ?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7250898
04/24/21 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Joe1
you guys are crazy wissmiss is a buyer that wants to see them stick around so she can buy if she wants to why would she want to say bad things about them you shippers gave up all rights to your furs when you gave them to them they can give them away sell them pt throw them away they can do any thing they want and you guys are not going to change the past or the future they dont care what you say they will do what ever they want and you have no control what they do


You are as wrong as it gets when you say we cannot change the future. As said many times as people see how they have treated other shippers they MAY just change the way they do things when they figure out what they did to loose the faith in a true auction. You act like we want to see them go belly up. That is far from reality. They still have more of my fur up there than a lot of you catch in a decade. NAFA already showed us how that all works out. They sold stuff left over to pay their debts and gave the shippers nothing.

FHA to restore confidence and to get shippers to ship again need to restructure the way they do things to include doing what they say, Being more transparent with what they do to include update accounts, and get rid of PT sales after a day or two of the actual auction. I hope Downey reads this and thinks seriously about it. If not he will put on his golden parachute and bail like those in the boardroom of NAFA did. Quit selling our stuff cheap . Your decision lost you a lot of money and future shipments. LLL


From the rumors I hear, don't know if they are true or not, FHA made a decision to sell some fur cheap to get cash flow going. Like it or not if they did it's the reality of the market. What did you expect them to do? Close the doors like NAFA? You made an adult decision to give up control of how your fur is marketed in a horse crap market. This isn't the first time FHA and other auction houses did this and it won't be the last.

Dirt's got it figured out, Nimzy's got it figured out. Pay attention.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7250912
04/24/21 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Boco - the problem with a lot of your posts, comments, theories, etc., is that you only see the situation from a Canadian perspective. And you think that applies to all North American Trappers. Well, it doesn’t!!

Truth be told, you don’t know diddly about United States Trappers. How they think. How they view Fur Harvesters. Etc. The only thing US trappers and Canadian Trappers have in common is that they are Trappers.

So get off your high horse and stop thinking you are the most informed person on this forum.


I was talking about Ontario trappers in particular and a lot in Quebec.
This forum is not just american trappers so dont get arrogant and think its always just about Americans.
You know-The trappers that started that auction house in response to the way things were done in the past that was not beneficial to trappers.
The fact that many trappers from the states(especially the northern border states) started shipping fur there is what it is.
In fact a lot of American supporters were instrumental in getting FHA going after OTA went down in the early 90"s because they believed in what the Ontario trappers started.
A lot of people are not aware of the history and why they are there.I will inform all trappers in that regard.

Last edited by Boco; 04/24/21 12:38 PM.

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