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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7250942
04/24/21 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Boco - the problem with a lot of your posts, comments, theories, etc., is that you only see the situation from a Canadian perspective. And you think that applies to all North American Trappers. Well, it doesn’t!!

Truth be told, you don’t know diddly about United States Trappers. How they think. How they view Fur Harvesters. Etc. The only thing US trappers and Canadian Trappers have in common is that they are Trappers.

So get off your high horse and stop thinking you are the most informed person on this forum.


Exactly!!!!

For someone who SHOULD know this, he acts dumber than a box of rocks when replying to us south of him with different fur and more outlets.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251027
04/24/21 04:01 PM
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I appreciate both WissMiss' and Boco's perspectives on here. They add plenty to the knowledge base.

....plus, always gotta love another clean skinner! laugh


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251049
04/24/21 04:53 PM
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There are plenty of real nice people on this site,but the typical American arrogance,known world wide comes thru from some.
I got no problem with that,makes for interesting threads,I'm just here to point out that some of the arrogant ones should strive to be more humble and nice-more like Canadians eh?But not likely because I dont think they even realize it,lol.-For example like saying because an opinion from a Canadian perspective is wrong because it is Canadian and not American,when there are plenty of both here,is the height of arrogance-see?
The funniest are the Americans who pretend to be Canadians like that SP Jones kid,lol.

Last edited by Boco; 04/24/21 04:58 PM.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251063
04/24/21 05:16 PM
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Yup. I would be the height of arrogance. When it comes to certain subjects, I’m smarter than 98.5 % of the people on this forum. So there!!!


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251065
04/24/21 05:18 PM
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LOL.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Boco] #7251078
04/24/21 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
There are plenty of real nice people on this site,but the typical American arrogance,known world wide comes thru from some.
I got no problem with that,makes for interesting threads,I'm just here to point out that some of the arrogant ones should strive to be more humble and nice-more like Canadians eh?But not likely because I dont think they even realize it,lol.-For example like saying because an opinion from a Canadian perspective is wrong because it is Canadian and not American,when there are plenty of both here,is the height of arrogance-see?
The funniest are the Americans who pretend to be Canadians like that SP Jones kid,lol.



The only ones who are really top lot arrogant are the Canadians
who lecture Americans about being Americans, Eh BOCO !!! laugh

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bblwi] #7251083
04/24/21 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
The international auction was not nearly as optimistic on xl size rats or 2xl-3xl rats that were falls or even light winters and slights. The tops moved a lot. I had 3 $6 rats in September and those were $8.70 this sale. My heavy xl and semi 2xl-3xl PT sold for $3.50 and $4.00. I had mediums near that this round. The buyers that were paying $6 , 4 and 2 knew where the market was especially when the a very high percentage could find their way into the $2 piles. We will see how July goes. Probably won't be a lot of rats there cut will be interesting to see how the 2xl, xl and large sell. I only have 10 and should have 8 winters and a couple springs.

Bryce


Based on Kopenhagens results sept appears to be the low point. As FHA moved goods then it reinforced that.

Currently there seem to be 2 categories of muskrat skins. The commercial skins which are used in the liner trade. And the heavy goods that are desirable for hats and trim. If the skins produced don’t make the cut they fall into the commercial category and are discounted. The problem in the country is that country buyers tend to chase averages and bonus themselves on the premium goods.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251097
04/24/21 06:15 PM
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Here's what I have learned after catching and selling fur for almost 50 years: It always pays to be prepared when you market that fur....
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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251101
04/24/21 06:22 PM
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Steven49er I feel towards FHA like you do the printing of money. Every post you make is about how wrong it is. Should I say for you to get over it since you use the dollar? I have no issue with you. Leave it alone. Or not. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: nimzy] #7251106
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Originally Posted by nimzy

Kopenhagen fur.
Brown velvet males.
September 2020. 695000 offered $24.80 average. 99% sold
February 2021. 410000 offered $50.10 average. 100% sold
April 2021. 540000 offered. $57.90 average. 100% sold. .


Here’s some food for thought.
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$57.90-24.80= $33.10 x 695000 =$23,004,500.00. Market adjustment. Wonder how those who sold in September @ kopenhagen felt?

My calculations for brown velvet males. About 10% of the volume of the sale. 6.5m skins (one sale)

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251223
04/24/21 09:30 PM
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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251232
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I shipped to FHA last month, for the first time.....solely on Boco’s recommendation here on Trapperman. If I get burnt , he will be held responsible. If I do well, it was a stroke of genius on my part.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Bigbrownie] #7251313
04/25/21 12:27 AM
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Too funny Brownie. U win either way. Have ur cake n eat it too lol.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251315
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Seriously, Boco has forgot more about trapping than I’ll ever know. When Boco speaks, people should listen.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: nimzy] #7251367
04/25/21 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Originally Posted by nimzy

Kopenhagen fur.
Brown velvet males.
September 2020. 695000 offered $24.80 average. 99% sold
February 2021. 410000 offered $50.10 average. 100% sold
April 2021. 540000 offered. $57.90 average. 100% sold. .



Here’s some food for thought.
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$57.90-24.80= $33.10 x 695000 =$23,004,500.00. Market adjustment. Wonder how those who sold in September @ kopenhagen felt?

My calculations for brown velvet males. About 10% of the volume of the sale. 6.5m skins (one sale)


More research. Searching for anything positive

% increase = Increase ÷ Original Number × 100.
33.1/24.8= 1.334x100= 133% from September to now.

Wonder what that speculator is doing? Pulling the trigger in the deepest valley. Should we all have seen this coming? Nah, the clarity of hindsight.

I sometimes talk to myself lol.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Bigbrownie] #7251400
04/25/21 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Seriously, Boco has forgot more about trapping than I’ll ever know. When Boco speaks, people should listen.


And if we don't believe you BOZO will come along and you can ask him. lol. For what it is worth I am sure he does know how to trap. It is when he speaks of other things and marketing American trappers fur that he gets outside his lane. LLL


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251474
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I have to admit I too have reached out to Boco on occasion for assistance with my own marketing scheme(s). For which he has provided some good leads. Thanks Boco!

I would think when it comes to the marketing of our wares we all have similar goals confused

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251489
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Is kopenhagen still planning on shutting the doors even if ranch mink do become profitable again?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: kingrat] #7251496
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Originally Posted by kingrat
Is kopenhagen still planning on shutting the doors even if ranch mink do become profitable again?


Right now there are about 50 people planning on raising mink again next year in Denmark. That is down from the 1600 or so ranches that were up and running just a year ago. So how kopenhagen could stay in business still seems impossible.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7251502
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Didn't some Denmark mink ranchers move their operation to WI?


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