Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/26/21 08:47 PM
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What does that have to do with you being a troll?
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: rpmartin]
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04/26/21 09:43 PM
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What does that have to do with you being a troll? Let me educate you yet again. "Dirt has it figured out." You are welcome.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: merganser]
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04/27/21 01:17 AM
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Slick and Dirt; Just wondering? Are you against Hunter Ed and Drivers Ed as well? My Guess would be yes
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 07:18 AM
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trappers ed is a fantastic idea..........you want educated trappers out there..............when you have idiots that don't know what they are doing,,,setting traps willy nilly ,,,and then something happens.................the trapping community gets a black eye. this benefits all of us.
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 09:53 AM
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Dirt
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Funny thing is Montana does not require Drivers ed to get a drivers license. Actually, if you remember right, your parents teach you how to drive. Remember how this works you have to pass the drivers test. It ain't an auto-pass test either.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: wissmiss]
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04/27/21 10:06 AM
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I personally think trapper education courses are a very good idea.
Let the “discussion” begin. Kansas had Trapper Education requirements beginning in 1985/1986. I was in one of the first classes in the state in 1985 provided by KFHA. Learned a lot. The requirement is a great idea. Do some research on Montana and you'll see uneducated people were trapping in places that created major issues for our tradition. The guys who set the traps had no idea what they're doing and had a license. If peoples' pets keep getting killed where they are allowed to run free, we'll lose the privilege.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Coyote Clayton]
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04/27/21 10:26 AM
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If peoples' pets keep getting killed where they are allowed to run free, we'll lose the privilege. Bit of a sore spot with me... How is an eight hour class chock full of education and ethics supposed to help with the scenario you just mentioned. A trapper can take the class, do everything right, be in the right, and some fool who allows his dog to run loose gives that trapper a black eye... Trust me, I know... A certain dog was 2 miles from the owner's property. No amount of education and ethics will ever make it not the trapper's fault. They'll simply claim that we took the class so we knew better... And they'll ignore the free-roaming dog was miles from its home property and where it was never supposed to be. Mike
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 10:48 AM
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Mike, bit of a sore subject there from the other side. Unless you are only trapping on private, posted property that no else is supposed to be on, that dog has as much right as you do to be there. I've had my dogs caught numerous times while out hunting, and I've never had one hurt, nor have I ever complained about trappers being where I'm hunting. (Interestingly enough I've only ever caught a dog other than my own while trapping once). Yet I've had trappers try to run me off public ground, threaten to put poison out, etc. because they were trapping there. We need to stick together against the antis, not fight amongst each other.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 11:11 AM
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We need mandatory lawn mower safety classes, and chainsaws, and ladders, and tractors, and power tools, and knives, and swimming, and snow shoveling, and fishing, and roofing, and dog bites, and internet trapping. All paid for by somebody else.
No pets were harmed during the above activities,, yet,, today.
The ones that concerned me more were those that already knew everything. It's legal I'm setting it.
Carry on, I got to get to class.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
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04/27/21 01:25 PM
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Mike, bit of a sore subject there from the other side. Unless you are only trapping on private, posted property that no else is supposed to be on, that dog has as much right as you do to be there. I've had my dogs caught numerous times while out hunting, and I've never had one hurt, nor have I ever complained about trappers being where I'm hunting. (Interestingly enough I've only ever caught a dog other than my own while trapping once). Yet I've had trappers try to run me off public ground, threaten to put poison out, etc. because they were trapping there. We need to stick together against the antis, not fight amongst each other. I get it... I rarely trap public property anymore so I was referring to private property. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 02:20 PM
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It's not dogs fault let's face it ,,, it's the the owners fault if the dog is in a place they do not belong.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 05:38 PM
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I attended one of MT FWP trapping classes a few years back in Glendive, I had only been trapping about 5 years at the time, They had Gary Jepson as one of the instructors, I learned a lot from him. He did numerous demos on trapping and snaring. They also had a Representative from the MTA who also did some demos on water trapping. I think that if they continue to get these type of instructors, it would be beneficial to anyone who attends. I have since started helping others who are getting into trapping and showing them the ropes. I know that not everyone trapping has had someone available to ask questions or seek guidance from. I think having a Trappers Education Course would help anyone starting out and give a refresher to anyone who traps. I noticed almost every year they keep changing the regulations, at least it would bring some back up to speed on the new regulations and keep them from getting a huge fine or loosing a critter to FWP Warden!
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Slick Pan]
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04/27/21 08:10 PM
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I am a certified instructor in 2 states. Demos are an important part of the education classes. I have done many demos at trappers ed. classes. Trappers ed classes are usually available at state conventions also. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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04/27/21 08:11 PM
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If peoples' pets keep getting killed where they are allowed to run free, we'll lose the privilege. Bit of a sore spot with me... How is an eight hour class chock full of education and ethics supposed to help with the scenario you just mentioned. A trapper can take the class, do everything right, be in the right, and some fool who allows his dog to run loose gives that trapper a black eye... Trust me, I know... A certain dog was 2 miles from the owner's property. No amount of education and ethics will ever make it not the trapper's fault. They'll simply claim that we took the class so we knew better... And they'll ignore the free-roaming dog was miles from its home property and where it was never supposed to be. Mike We were taught ethics and avoiding conflicts. Just because we could, does not men we should type stuff.
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Re: Montana Requires Trapper Education Course
[Re: merganser]
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04/27/21 08:14 PM
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As Montana mentioned, I think it would be a great idea if they, FWP, could/would have trappers/teachers do demonstrations as part of the curriculum. These same trappers that you see a demos that MTA puts on, I could see students learning a whole lot. As the teacher/trapper is doing the demo, they could at the same time be talking about regulations, etc. and why it's best to set a trap this particular way. The trapper education classes in KS are now online and do not have the discussion of ethics/scenarios that need to be discussed from trappers that have been in tough situations.
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