Since most of the people that are shoving elc cars down our throats fly everywhere or they are driven across town they miss a big problem with elec cars. OR just don't care because they know they won't work. HOW will a family vacation look In the future. We drive 700 miles to the beach once a year . I pull in to a GAS station and in 15 -20 minutes ,trucks full , bathroom breaks and drinks in hand back on the rode. OK in their dumb idiot world. I drive 250 miles pull in to a CHARGING station . Sit 2-3 hours . Drive another 250 repeat. . 10 hour drive now take over 16 hrs.

Best I figure you may end up riding a bicycle. I think those bicycles use granola bars for fuel, makes sense, since the last greenpeacer I saw had more granola bars than anything else.

It's all about what fit into the agenda being pushed. What works or makes sense is irrelevant.

If they get their way, no one will get to do anything, no travel, have to eat grass, all in the name of "saving the planet"! Resist all their nonsense!

Auto manufacturers may standardize battery sizes. Maybe 2-3 different sizes, for different size vehicles or voltages. You pull in to the "gas"station, pop out the old battery, pop in a new one, and off you go. The batteries used to be enormous, they'd take up an entire trunk and you had to use a engine hoist to remove em. Now they're pretty small, like the size of a briefcase. With improved technology, they could get even smaller and lighter.

Right now everyone has their own battery size and voltage. It's.kinda like when fuel injection first came out....each manufacturer had their own way of reading codes, and the codes weren't standardized. In 1996-1997 manufacturers standardized everything, so now the way codes are checked, and the code definitions, are the same in each vehicle.

Correct......, plus another BIG problem is to find a power source to charge the chargers. US will need to expand generator capacity by a factor of 10, plus rebuild the entire grid, to be able to flip to an all electric fleet.

Last I checked, most 24/7 generators run on coal, LP or nuclear. Will the US build hundreds of new nuclear plants? If not, guess car or truck will just have to sit where it dies until sun shines or wind blows. More likely, trips like that will be a thing of the past.

I can see the waiting lines now of people waiting to plug in their cars on I 95 .... as a pit stop will now take 3 hours instead of 5 minutes to fill up. Can't even have a burger while ya wait as they got rid of the cows. Instead you can have some water and a bar of tofu. ...... Paradise heading you way folks

I can see the simplicity of just switching to a fully charged battery. But is it like playing musical chairs and who ever gets caught with the bad battery has to buy a new one or how would that work? Surely those batteries will die sometime, someplace, hopefully not in the desert or in a snow storm.

will it really be a problem , just plug in and super charge at each vaccine checkpoint .

drive 3 hours , wait at checkpoint for an hour on charger then drive next 3 hours


no it has nothing to do with public safety

I could envision a system where you pay maybe $20 to switch out a new battery (just to use a nice round number). If that battery is junk, just complain to the gas station owner and get a different one. The dead batteries would go somewhere to get tested and charged at off hours slowly, so it wouldn't be such a strain on the grid (though obviously that would need major improvements).

As far as the battery dying and leaving ng you stranded, that wouldn't be any different than when a gas vehicle breaks down. Call a tow truck and get it fixed.

I think loosegoose has it right. Battery swap is what would work. A battery service company could own all the batteries and you go to one of their stations to swap and pay by the kw used. However, we would have made our economy and perhaps aspects of our national defense more dependent upon our electrical grid and our generation capacity. The more we rely on one energy source the more vulnerable we become. Then there is the aspect of trying to build additional generation capacity. The environmentalists will fight that tooth and nail.

It would be alot easier and cheaper to rid the country of those infected with libtardism

Gonna go get me an old junky Toyota and convert it over to wood fired like Yoosless did on mountain man. Then when it don't work I'll run it off a mountain and destroy it.

What do these electric vehicles use for a heat source in cold weather or AC when hot? A electric heater would dramatically reduce range as would the additional load running ac compressor.

That's quaint thinking you can take vacations in private vehicles when electric vehicles becomes mandated

This statement has added a lot to the conversation. Very informative and thought provoking.

Very interesting and informative Loosegoose. I think you're right. A battery exchange would be the simplest, fastest, and most efficient way to operate. It's amazing how far and fast technology (battery size) has evolved. It certainly stands to reason that your vision would work.

Its all just fantasy and talking points. Electrical engineers have already pointed out that the electrical infrastructure simply wont handle the widespread use of electric vehicles. In one example they cited it looked at an average suburban neighbourhood. If every house had just one electric car in that neighbourhood the grid would go down as soon as they were plugged in. Can you imagine the cost to upgrade the grid to handle everyone driving electrical cars!! Thats assuming we had the power to begin with, which we dont. Dont sell that gas engine yet.

The issues to me owning one would be:

1. The charging station I would have to put in costs a lot. We had two installed at our marina and I don't think my house power is enough.

2. Heat in winter as stated is a huge waste.

2. Overall range when driving to Grand bend to see the in laws is like a 6 hr drive...

Tesla batteries weigh a half ton. Your gonna need a nascar pit crew to exchange batteries