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I just can't get this out of my mind #7253920
04/28/21 05:40 PM
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PVT Davis Offline OP
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How far is the line before it is too late/should we endure till we need to use major methods? For there are many things that would need to change to ensure that we come back together that the government is doing the opposite. It has been bothering me a lot recently, and it's just like; how are we going to stay a strong nation with all this turmoil and hypocrisy? Sometimes I just think if we could make a conservative country and a liberal country so that each would get what they want(though I know that there are many complications and nuisances with that sort of deal). I am not wanting this to turn into a war or be violent from either side, but when is the point that would require it for that type of solution is the only one and to help prevent it?

Sincerely,

a Christian in turmoil


A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7253927
04/28/21 05:51 PM
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The point that required that type of solution is past. It was on November 4th 2020


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Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7253928
04/28/21 05:53 PM
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you need a perfect storm

sometimes you have to help a perfect storm along


a perfect storm is an event where , said power way oversteps their authority , or what is right and wrong , you also need to be the first one out with the story with much compelling evidence.

early in the morning of April 20th 1775 many scribes were out to record first hand accounts of the events of April 19th 1775 , the atrocities committed by the Regulars the accounts were compiled and sent on the fastest ship to England to be distributed to sympathetic news papers

have to get ahead of the narrative they wish to create.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254014
04/28/21 07:17 PM
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America isn't just a place, it's an idea, a belief. Liberalism is not America. Read history.


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Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7254016
04/28/21 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
America isn't just a place, it's an idea, a belief. Liberalism is not America. Read history.


Agree.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254048
04/28/21 08:16 PM
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But what is that dream? to be ruled by the majority of people in the land? to be free from most government/foreign interference(like the Whigs in the revolution)? to be free from persecution from other groups (like the first settlers in New England)? The pursuit of happiness? All men are created equal(with this being interpreted many different ways such as if it is ability, or respect)?
For each have good intentions but there will always be loopholes that are not taken into account when people think about it.


A good life tip:

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3
Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254053
04/28/21 08:22 PM
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To make America a better place, NEVER vote for democrats.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254139
04/28/21 09:50 PM
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I'm no biblical scholar. However from reading the bible. Especially in the old testament book of Judges. The people of Israel were under the rule of others many times for many years. The Lord Our God allowed this to get them to return to him. It was allowed because they turned away from God and committed Idolatry. I wonder sincerely whether that is what is happening to Our Country now? There are many different forms of Idolatry.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254165
04/28/21 10:32 PM
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I have faith that we can somehow turn the corner. Crime and drugs are bringing us down.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254166
04/28/21 10:33 PM
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The only reason our country is in the position it is and is in short order becoming unrecognizable is because the American people are fat and lazy, both in their physical and their mental states.

Our founding fathers would have never put up with this. Heck if we still had men like those found at the Alamo, none of this would be happening.

Nobody cares.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254219
04/28/21 11:17 PM
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Hard to turn socialism around. Entitlement and irresponsibly are our biggest threats. When the people realize they can vote themselves more welfare in many forms they won't stop until the ship is sunk.

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254229
04/28/21 11:33 PM
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It would seem plausible that several of the ideas presented here are occurring now in America.

As for me and mine, we're confident the common grace of humans will not accomplish what the OP is seeking.


Blessings,
Mark


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Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254251
04/29/21 12:13 AM
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It is too late. It was proven last November when so many clueless people including hunters, trappers and gun owners voted for politicians that are willing to destroy this country

Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254537
04/29/21 12:37 PM
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Voting won't beat a rigged machine.


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Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254545
04/29/21 01:16 PM
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Billy Joel already said it in the 90's. "We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning....But when we are gone it willl still burn on."


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Re: I just can't get this out of my mind [Re: PVT Davis] #7254587
04/29/21 02:14 PM
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The goal of the left is to bring in as many immigrants, fill their pockets with everything free so they will vote for the left's agenda.
Then they can win with a fair election by sheer numbers and move on to their communist agenda.


So they said, don't visit your family for Christmas and now they open the borders for everyone?
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