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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: F150] #7254907
04/29/21 10:53 PM
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Just to throw a wrench in here, have any of you guys done research on immunity beyond antibodies? I will admit that my books on virology an immunology have gathered a bit of dust (rest assured, I am dusting them off and studying now), but I have read reports that these "antibody tests" merely test for antibodies, not all immune cells, such as T cells and memory cells, etc., which last longer and I believe are more specific. I remember studying this, but I need a refresher. The gist of it is that they are passing off a test for a partial segment of immune cells as a full test for immunity. Surprised?


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7254926
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Let us know what you find out about T cells. I'm wondering what kind of protection I will have if or when I lose my antibodies.
I'm in a house full of people at a birthday party right this minute, at least half the people here had covid last September, there are two people here who tested positive for covid just today, and they have symptoms.
Nobody has a mask on (or really seems to care). It will make an interesting mini case study.


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: Jackdale] #7254954
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Originally Posted by Jackdale
My wife's liberal family doesn't want her to go to her family cabin unless she's got the vaccine. We all got the Wuhan flu already. I'm trying to get facts to refute the need for her to get the vaccine since she wants to go. All very stupid and I would skip the trip if I was her.


Why does what they think matter more than what she thinks? She could say “ I’m not comfortable with people who have taken an experimental shot being at the family cabin.”

Unless she is not an equal owner.

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255151
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People I know who had Covid were advised to wait 30 days after testing positive before getting the vaccine.

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255155
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People I know who had Covid were advised to wait 30 days after testing positive before getting the vaccine.

As a kid and even in the military, I probably had a dozen polio vaccines. Schools, summer camps, colleges, and then Uncle Sam required them. One must have worked but I don’t know which one it was. A small pox vaccine I was given as a young child worked but then another as a soldier took as well. Never know.

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: charles] #7255182
04/30/21 10:55 AM
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Waggler, I am seeing that newer tests are coming which detect longer term T cells. This is interesting:

https://www.geekwire.com/2021/testi...at-antibodies-detecting-past-infections/

I don't know how readily those tests can be found at this point.

The studies mentioned here show T cells remaining from exposures to older coronaviruses may till hang around and help fight the current one:

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/...fer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255183
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Does anyone know if I send a letter to Fauci requesting his autograph will he respond?


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255219
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If you put the "autograph" line at the bottom of a CNN appearance contract, I am sure he will respond immediately!

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: FairbanksLS] #7255220
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Originally Posted by white dog

Does anyone know if I send a letter to Fauci requesting his autograph will he respond?

His office is probably burning all mail after being snowed under with copies of Faucian Bargain

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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255234
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Well I had Covid in February so I hopefully have some good antibodies in my system, but either way I'm not taking the vaccine. My good friends dad passed of covid-19 after having his first shot for two weeks and only days away from getting his second. Now I have a childhood friend who is my son's teacher that is in the ICU on the ventilator now. She had both her shots over two months ago and still is about dead from covid. They called the family in yesterday but she made it thru the night so they are going to turn her back over on her back today and see if her oxygen improves. She's 38 and the mother of 3 young children and did everything the government ask her to do. But she is now fighting for her life. That's two in my small town (less than 5,000) that had vaccine and still became deathly ill

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: bowhunter27295] #7255238
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I know several people now who tested positive for antibodies.

Anyone can get their antibodies tested at Labcorp. Set up an account on Labcorp. Then go to the front page of the Labcorp website. You will see a covid 19 antibodies test advertisement. Click on that, pick your site and set a time.

They draw blood and send you the results the next day on your email.

I think most people will be surprised that they have antibodies.


https://www.labcorp.com/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/individuals/antibody-test

Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: RM trapper] #7255240
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Originally Posted by RM trapper
Well I had Covid in February so I hopefully have some good antibodies in my system, but either way I'm not taking the vaccine. My good friends dad passed of covid-19 after having his first shot for two weeks and only days away from getting his second. Now I have a childhood friend who is my son's teacher that is in the ICU on the ventilator now. She had both her shots over two months ago and still is about dead from covid. They called the family in yesterday but she made it thru the night so they are going to turn her back over on her back today and see if her oxygen improves. She's 38 and the mother of 3 young children and did everything the government ask her to do. But she is now fighting for her life. That's two in my small town (less than 5,000) that had vaccine and still became deathly ill


A small mining town where I've been for the last couple months did 8 medivac flights in one week right after the second round of shots. Here in my small community we are seeing the same thing. More heart issues and recently were seeing some really strange blood pressures, that even the nurses are wondering about. We've had several calls where the patient felt dizzy and light headed. During our vitals check we are finding wildly high BP one minute, then extremely low just a few minutes later. This often continues all the way to the ER which is a two hour ambulance ride away. Somethings not right about all this, and I think more will come out as time goes on. I know a lot of paramedics that are starting to ask questions now.


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: yukon254] #7255267
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Originally Posted by yukon254
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Well I had Covid in February so I hopefully have some good antibodies in my system, but either way I'm not taking the vaccine. My good friends dad passed of covid-19 after having his first shot for two weeks and only days away from getting his second. Now I have a childhood friend who is my son's teacher that is in the ICU on the ventilator now. She had both her shots over two months ago and still is about dead from covid. They called the family in yesterday but she made it thru the night so they are going to turn her back over on her back today and see if her oxygen improves. She's 38 and the mother of 3 young children and did everything the government ask her to do. But she is now fighting for her life. That's two in my small town (less than 5,000) that had vaccine and still became deathly ill


A small mining town where I've been for the last couple months did 8 medivac flights in one week right after the second round of shots. Here in my small community we are seeing the same thing. More heart issues and recently were seeing some really strange blood pressures, that even the nurses are wondering about. We've had several calls where the patient felt dizzy and light headed. During our vitals check we are finding wildly high BP one minute, then extremely low just a few minutes later. This often continues all the way to the ER which is a two hour ambulance ride away. Somethings not right about all this, and I think more will come out as time goes on. I know a lot of paramedics that are starting to ask questions now.

You are probably aware of the cases in Lytton B.C.
Of course the authorities are trying to discredit the whistle blowing doctor.
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/27/first-nations-vaccine-adverse-reactions-charles-hoffe.html


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255272
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Oh yes I've been following that doctor in Lytton. Lots of small local news stations are airing similar stories now. MSM wont touch them. Going to be lots of lawsuits over this.

One of many reports Ive seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aAk36PovnU

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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255288
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Wont be any lawsuits as its a enter at your own risk deal. Only way company’s would release an experimental drug on the market without first doing proper trials to ensure its safe to take why I won’t go near it. They have no clue what the long term effects will be.


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: waggler] #7255291
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Well when my friends dad passed away they told the family that the vaccine wasn't in his system long enough for it to help and that you need both vaccines. Then I hear Canada is giving their residents one then waiting 4 months before the second. Now my 38 yr old friend has had both of hers with the second being almost two months ago. I feel as they are using the public as the guinea pigs. Think I'll just go with my God given immune system

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It is my feeling that bill gates has a hand in this somehow, and if you know anything about that snake in the grass, this won't turn out well!


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Re: Covid Antibodies FYI [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7255314
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
It is my feeling that bill gates has a hand in this somehow, and if you know anything about that snake in the grass, this won't turn out well!


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