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Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7209900
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What can you tell us of your situation to help others learn?

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7209908
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Well, I knew better but we really wanted the place and the price was right...make sure all bases are covered before signing paperwork.
That said, the original owner bought a 20 acre parcel and years later gave a 5 acre chunk to his kid. The property is legally divided but at that time there was no conflict of lines and no survey. Well they both died and recently the sons widow sold to her renters... even while they were renters this guy caused me problems. At one point he was well onto our property cutting wood in what he referred to as our woods. I have expressed my concerns of encroachment several times over 5 years. I have honored their space, he has not reciprocated and I’m not feeling so nice anymore. It’s time for a formal line and some fencing.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210148
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Originally Posted by Twolines
It is not my intention to argue and I hope I’m not coming off that way. I appreciate all input on my posts...even bocos’ medical grade comments.


Your responses don't bother me!

Knowing now that you have no monumentation, I would highly recommend that you have monuments set. Costs a bit more, but the peace of mind is priceless!

Pete

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210206
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Considering Pete's background and AGE........he probably has good advice!

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210256
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He hasn’t steered me wrong yet. Mostly why I assured I am not being argumentative.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210265
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Hey marten, was the description of my problem helpful in understanding? I forgot to mention that the property is a 20 acre rectangle with 5 acres cut off the end.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210513
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Good fences make good neighbors. I'd get a boundary survey of the property and construct the fence on the north line marked by the surveyor. I would ask to have the line marked so that the marking is intervisible on the north line. On the west line I would have the line flagged only. Blazing and painting it myself. The blazes will be evident to a trained eye for as long as the tree lasts.

Good luck.




Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210521
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As long as we are talking about surveyors, I'm trying to find one in Anchorage or maybe the K.P. that would fly out to Pilot Point.
Been trying to three years to get a simple subdivision surveyed, the first surveyor did about a half day of field work over two years ago then I never heard back. Called him once and he said he still wanted to complete the job; but silence since.
My experience with surveyors is about the same as my experience with taxidermists.
Finding one in King Salmon or Dillingham would be ideal, but I have left numerous voice messages with one in King Salmon who has never returned my calls.


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Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210547
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White dog, that is almost exactly my plan.
Waggler, I wish I could help. Maybe someone will chime in if we keep this going.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210551
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Waggler, Did you have a signed contract? Contracts protect both parties. Also the larger the firm the more resources available to them to deal with the logistics of performing a remote survey.

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Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210563
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Maybe we should change the name of this thread to “surveying Alaska” and everyone can throw their input and experience in. I for one think it may be very helpful to some.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: white dog] #7210586
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Originally Posted by white dog
Waggler, Did you have a signed contract? Contracts protect both parties. Also the larger the firm the more resources available to them to deal with the logistics of performing a remote survey.

No I didn't, but fortunately they never invoiced me either. Needless to say I won't be paying them anything unless they finish the job; I will be careful about paying any surveyor upfront after this experience.


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Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210598
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All they had time to do in half a day is see the lay of the land. If I wanted a remote survey of my property I'd fly it with a drone and provide that info when I was trying to find a surveyor. That would at least give them an idea of what they were getting into and a great tool for future sales.

You can get a decent setup for less than $1000.




Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7210912
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Your reply was fine. Good luck. My wife has property in Kenny lake that her mom sold a part of. Those owners are MIA so no problems there. Wife may have problems with the property later for other reasons.

Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7255559
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Update-had the survey done, Stutzmann is the go to company in my area. VERY well marked lines.
The adjoining neighbor seems to be non confrontational for now... he fd up though and planted a few trees well into our field. He told me they would move them so we’ll see...

Re: Property survey needed [Re: waggler] #7255705
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by white dog
Waggler, Did you have a signed contract? Contracts protect both parties. Also the larger the firm the more resources available to them to deal with the logistics of performing a remote survey.

No I didn't, but fortunately they never invoiced me either. Needless to say I won't be paying them anything unless they finish the job; I will be careful about paying any surveyor upfront after this experience.



I used this guy in 2005. He flew out here and did the job the same day. Sent me the finished survey and invoice at the same time

I met him and his dad in 1968. His dad had a homestead in south Anchorage in the area that is now Johns Road.


https://porch.com/anchorage-ak/surveyors/robert-e-johns-jr-and-assoc/pp


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Re: Property survey needed [Re: Twolines] #7256526
05/02/21 08:29 PM
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Sounds like you got this done, but the other shop in Fairbanks that does good work is 3 Tier https://www.3tieralaska.com/. Design AK, Sutzman, and 3 Tier are the three major outfits that do work in Fairbanks and the surrounding areas that I have seen at the bank.

Good luck with the neighbors.

-TJ


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