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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257121
05/03/21 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper

Id say you are spot on with the if one is born and can defend itself, it will.

It is the belief in God that will often stop someone from vigorously defending themselves as well as keep some from acting as the predators they are or could be.


I don't agree wit that Hobbie. A person does not have to be religious in order to show compassion for moderation. As an example. I have plated way more that I can use come harvest time. So once our freezer and jars etc. are filled I intend to bring a truckload or two to one of the local churches that has a food pantry so they can give it to the less fortunate. I don't have to share their belief of have an interest in what branch of christianity they follow.


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257132
05/03/21 09:55 PM
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Common grace in action.
Thank you Scuba1 for benevolence and for having an understanding of the Christian faithful, same as they should have for you.


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Scuba1] #7257138
05/03/21 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper

Id say you are spot on with the if one is born and can defend itself, it will.

It is the belief in God that will often stop someone from vigorously defending themselves as well as keep some from acting as the predators they are or could be.


I don't agree wit that Hobbie. A person does not have to be religious in order to show compassion for moderation. As an example. I have plated way more that I can use come harvest time. So once our freezer and jars etc. are filled I intend to bring a truckload or two to one of the local churches that has a food pantry so they can give it to the less fortunate. I don't have to share their belief of have an interest in what branch of christianity they follow.

A person does not have to necessarily be religious to believe in God either.

Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257146
05/03/21 10:13 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257147
05/03/21 10:16 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257148
05/03/21 10:18 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257158
05/03/21 10:29 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257163
05/03/21 10:40 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Scuba1] #7257301
05/04/21 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper

Id say you are spot on with the if one is born and can defend itself, it will.

It is the belief in God that will often stop someone from vigorously defending themselves as well as keep some from acting as the predators they are or could be.


I don't agree wit that Hobbie. A person does not have to be religious in order to show compassion for moderation. As an example. I have plated way more that I can use come harvest time. So once our freezer and jars etc. are filled I intend to bring a truckload or two to one of the local churches that has a food pantry so they can give it to the less fortunate. I don't have to share their belief of have an interest in what branch of christianity they follow.


Ive been looking for my post where I stated a person cant be compassionate without God but I cant find it.

Can you help a brother out? lol


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257331
05/04/21 10:17 AM
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Hoddie what I read in your post is that people that do not believe in got a more predatory and violent then the ones that do. I would suggest that you use a smaller brush for painting. grin I have met some a holes in my time that sit in church every Sunday " repenting" or whatever they do, only to try and screw folks over for the rest of the week. I think its not about god, but about the individual person itself.


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257373
05/04/21 11:30 AM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257382
05/04/21 11:45 AM
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It still leaves me thinking that the individuals responses of behavior for a given situation have nothing whatsoever to do with believing in a god or not.
But again thats just my tow cents worth.


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally
Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257417
05/04/21 12:53 PM
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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Scuba1] #7257527
05/04/21 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
It still leaves me thinking that the individuals responses of behavior for a given situation have nothing whatsoever to do with believing in a god or not.
But again thats just my tow cents worth.


Perhaps regeneration, a gift from God, hasn't reached their doorstep? Or it has, and they haven't attempted to live according to Romans 6, which isn't out of the norm either. That's why Paul wrote the Roman believers. They too were acting as if Grace covered all... so party on! Or maybe some are like the Sadducees of the OT. The synagogue was a place to do business and they considered the Temple a great money haven. They, along with the Pharisees and Herodians, had the only perfect man to walk this earth killed according to Scripture.

Quite fascinating. Humans think we're smarter but the hopes and dreams, and nature of each of us hasn't changed a dime since Adam.

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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257531
05/04/21 03:28 PM
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What if the vaccine is a gift from God to end this global pandemic?

Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7257535
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
I'm not a non vaxer. Just not this one. It's not a vaccine and this virus has a survival rate of over 99%.


1% of the worlds population is still a lot of people.

How about those who survive with cardiac and lung issues and can't do the things they used to be able to. Lon haul COVID is a real thing.

Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: ILcooner] #7257536
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
What if the vaccine is a gift from God to end this global pandemic?




You watch to much news. Notices lives in ILLINOIS never mind carry on.

1% of infected is not the same as 1% of the world's population.

That death rate is really much lower becuse many had it and did not know it or didn't bother getting tested

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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7257550
05/04/21 03:46 PM
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Doubt this virus has anything to do with any Deity at all, it's about money and control, which when done correctly leads to dictatorship of the mass's.

In our country some follow the Constitution when it lines up with their mind's ideas of life and being left alone, its convenient to express and show it off once in a while to those using it, for comfort, however to follow it and enforce it requires a much different sacrifice and expression of solitude or association with others, that many just don't have right now, where is the flash point is my question.

How far does the nation have to go before it pushes back totally to stop this incessant creep towards total say of what we do, say or need for our selves to survive.

I resist the shot because I can keep my job right now without having to worry about taking it, when the experimental designation drops from it, I will have to take it to keep my job to have the things I work for to enjoy and keep a home for my family with my age being what it is for the pay I receive. Not exactly what is said in our Constitution, or what any Deity has mentioned to any one else or left in a book of writings by others hundreds of years old after said person was long gone.


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: ILcooner] #7257552
05/04/21 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
What if the vaccine is a gift from God to end this global pandemic?


What if it isnt?

What if its a big ole trick perpetrated by the other one?

Maybe fauci and company arent telling you something else for your own good?

Maybe eliminating some from populated areas is for the greater good?

Maybe its just a dang experiment, using stuff thats never been used on humans, just to see what happens?


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Re: 31% Wont Vaccinate from Fear [Re: ILcooner] #7257570
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
I'm not a non vaxer. Just not this one. It's not a vaccine and this virus has a survival rate of over 99%.


1% of the worlds population is still a lot of people.

How about those who survive with cardiac and lung issues and can't do the things they used to be able to. Lon haul COVID is a real thing.
My sister-in-law is one of those. A year and a half later and still has lung problems.

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