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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Boco] #7255776
05/01/21 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
That is true-there is still hope,just compared to other cultures,we dont treat our elders with the respect they deserve.We tend to warehouse them in old age penitentiaries instead of sacrificing some time to look after them in our quest for the almighty dollar.
In western culture elders are often seen as a burden instead of the valuable asset they really are.



Couldn't agree more Boco.
The valuing of one human of another is a core ill of society. Who are we to judge that?

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255777
05/01/21 12:42 PM
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What has a greater value, living or being free? For the children, many chose freedom.


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Boco] #7255781
05/01/21 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge.
Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways.


Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt.


Who is John Galt?
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255782
05/01/21 12:46 PM
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A unknown virus with a survival rating at 99.6 percent, shows up and the world's upper echelon already knows all about it, yet says it's a must to disassociate with others and mask up to make your self not a bother to others but you are still suspect to be infected, then change the rules two weeks later because some Doctor Who has ideas of his own, then found to be a share holder or better in the area where this supposed unknown virus was found, there by totally making his credibility wasted from then on.

A vaccine is rushed to production with info from other prior experimental ones, is still labeled experimental, while still being touted as a vaccine, it does not stop you from being infected, it does not stop you from infecting others, it seems to be very suspect with a myriad of after effects of all kinds of things, yet still pushed as a vaccine that will make you better, don't know about most of you but in my knowledge vaccines stop infections, they don't just make you feel good you got one.

I will not take it due to the experimental nature of the vaccine, the high rate of survival of the virus, and my freedom of choice to not ingest things which I feel are not necessary to my well being, while I am considered to be in the high infection category, I'm not at all worried about having it, I'm tested by the company PPE Regs. mandatory to keep my job, and so far not required to have it, due to it's still experimental state, if the vaccine is changed to full distribution and not experimental, the company may decide to change their mind and make us take it, I will consider this at the time it happens as at my age I have not much choice of finding equal pay employment to live on and pay bills.

Sad state of affairs we all find our selves in due to a few wanting to make money out of a product to control others !!


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255787
05/01/21 12:48 PM
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True in some ways.


Still quite alot of old school people around here that care for their parents.

As for putting them in a nursing home, for some if not most its better than what the alternative would be.

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7255788
05/01/21 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
I'm not a non vaxer. Just not this one. It's not a vaccine and this virus has a survival rate of over 99%.

This guy knows whats up


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Dirt] #7255791
05/01/21 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Boco
Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge.
Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways.


Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt.


That would be due to the progressives among us. The label Republican or Democrat has little to do with the hearts of men (and women).

Some of us still respect the young and the old and the tweeners too. Of all colors and all tongues >>>> while the progressives sell us all on how wonderful hating others is.
Sorry. Not playing (as best I can, which is not 100% this side of Sheol.)

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255792
05/01/21 12:52 PM
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The MSM is doing their part ( brain washing ) to help the government in their quest for citizen compliance .

The MSM is doing their part ( brain washing ) to help the government convince you and me that the disaster at the border is a positive to society .

Look at all the sob stories they produce each night on the brain washing box on both topics


If you can't see it , well I guess you're an idiot


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255798
05/01/21 01:04 PM
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wear two masks always and get two vax shots.....2 is one.... smile


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Mark June] #7255803
05/01/21 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by Clark
How different everyone’s attitude toward the virus would be if it targeted children. Seniors? Who cares! I love me some freedom!


Is your guess that if the virus targeted children "more," it would steer opinions?



Do you think it wouldn’t have? How many mothers of young children would have gone on a voluntary quarantine if it killed children?

More to my point, and Boco’s as well, we clearly don’t value all lives equally. This flies in the face of the Pro-Life camp (and many on here fall into that category) that claims to value all lives.

Last edited by Clark; 05/01/21 01:11 PM.

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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255818
05/01/21 01:41 PM
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I didn't know that if we would had took the route of quarantining the most vulnerable, while the rest of society continued on(herd immunity), would be considered valuing another's life differently. I thought that would have just been common sense.

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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255819
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There real question is: how horribly have "our" gov't & media conducted themselves that less than half of the country trusts them?


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255823
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I don't see the "talking point" of not caring for others on this post. Me getting a vaccine (or not getting it) affects exactly 1persons life...mine.

It has zero affect on the elderly, the young or the tweeners.

Last edited by hippie; 05/01/21 01:49 PM.
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255824
05/01/21 01:50 PM
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Clark,

I have no idea who the "we" is in your thesis? Maybe you? Maybe those you know or speak for?
Please don't include "me" in your "we."

I don't subscribe to the progressive ideology, philosophy, sociology, psychology, or any other ology progressives says is good for us.
Most of it is bent inward and self-serving.
All of it is bent inward and self-serving.

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255846
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When they come out with a vaccine I’ll get one.

This is the actual definition of a vaccine...copied and pasted:

vac·cine
/vakˈsēn/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"there is no vaccine against the virus"

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: hippie] #7255851
05/01/21 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
I don't see the "talking point" of not caring for others on this post. Me getting a vaccine (or not getting it) affects exactly 1persons life...mine.

It has zero affect on the elderly, the young or the tweeners.


You sound pretty conservative for a hippie, hippie wink
You just bristled the hackle hairs of grizzled trappers here on Man.

Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255860
05/01/21 03:40 PM
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I told them to give.mine to boco...

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Dirt] #7255865
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Boco
Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge.
Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways.


Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt.


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Please explain how half the budget is being spent on seniors. Understand that we paid payroll taxes our entire working careers. This makes social security and medicare a paid benefit and not an entitlement.

Last edited by Tim64; 05/01/21 04:41 PM.
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255872
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The costs have exceeded, by far, the average contributions.


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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7255875
05/01/21 04:14 PM
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Many, many people did not pay into anything their entire non-working lack of careers and are drawing fat, healthy govt checks as well........

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