Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
[Re: Boco]
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05/01/21 12:40 PM
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Mark June
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That is true-there is still hope,just compared to other cultures,we dont treat our elders with the respect they deserve.We tend to warehouse them in old age penitentiaries instead of sacrificing some time to look after them in our quest for the almighty dollar. In western culture elders are often seen as a burden instead of the valuable asset they really are.
Couldn't agree more Boco. The valuing of one human of another is a core ill of society. Who are we to judge that? Blessings, Mark
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 12:45 PM
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Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge. Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways. Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 12:46 PM
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A unknown virus with a survival rating at 99.6 percent, shows up and the world's upper echelon already knows all about it, yet says it's a must to disassociate with others and mask up to make your self not a bother to others but you are still suspect to be infected, then change the rules two weeks later because some Doctor Who has ideas of his own, then found to be a share holder or better in the area where this supposed unknown virus was found, there by totally making his credibility wasted from then on.
A vaccine is rushed to production with info from other prior experimental ones, is still labeled experimental, while still being touted as a vaccine, it does not stop you from being infected, it does not stop you from infecting others, it seems to be very suspect with a myriad of after effects of all kinds of things, yet still pushed as a vaccine that will make you better, don't know about most of you but in my knowledge vaccines stop infections, they don't just make you feel good you got one.
I will not take it due to the experimental nature of the vaccine, the high rate of survival of the virus, and my freedom of choice to not ingest things which I feel are not necessary to my well being, while I am considered to be in the high infection category, I'm not at all worried about having it, I'm tested by the company PPE Regs. mandatory to keep my job, and so far not required to have it, due to it's still experimental state, if the vaccine is changed to full distribution and not experimental, the company may decide to change their mind and make us take it, I will consider this at the time it happens as at my age I have not much choice of finding equal pay employment to live on and pay bills.
Sad state of affairs we all find our selves in due to a few wanting to make money out of a product to control others !!
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 12:49 PM
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I'm not a non vaxer. Just not this one. It's not a vaccine and this virus has a survival rate of over 99%. This guy knows whats up
All for the Greater Glory of God
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 12:52 PM
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Mark June
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Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge. Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways. Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt. That would be due to the progressives among us. The label Republican or Democrat has little to do with the hearts of men (and women). Some of us still respect the young and the old and the tweeners too. Of all colors and all tongues >>>> while the progressives sell us all on how wonderful hating others is. Sorry. Not playing (as best I can, which is not 100% this side of Sheol.) Blessings, Mark
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 12:52 PM
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The MSM is doing their part ( brain washing ) to help the government in their quest for citizen compliance .
The MSM is doing their part ( brain washing ) to help the government convince you and me that the disaster at the border is a positive to society .
Look at all the sob stories they produce each night on the brain washing box on both topics
If you can't see it , well I guess you're an idiot
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 01:10 PM
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How different everyone’s attitude toward the virus would be if it targeted children. Seniors? Who cares! I love me some freedom! Is your guess that if the virus targeted children "more," it would steer opinions? Do you think it wouldn’t have? How many mothers of young children would have gone on a voluntary quarantine if it killed children? More to my point, and Boco’s as well, we clearly don’t value all lives equally. This flies in the face of the Pro-Life camp (and many on here fall into that category) that claims to value all lives.
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Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -Albert Einstein
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 01:41 PM
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I didn't know that if we would had took the route of quarantining the most vulnerable, while the rest of society continued on(herd immunity), would be considered valuing another's life differently. I thought that would have just been common sense.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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There real question is: how horribly have "our" gov't & media conducted themselves that less than half of the country trusts them?
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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I don't see the "talking point" of not caring for others on this post. Me getting a vaccine (or not getting it) affects exactly 1persons life...mine.
It has zero affect on the elderly, the young or the tweeners.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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05/01/21 01:50 PM
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Mark June
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Clark,
I have no idea who the "we" is in your thesis? Maybe you? Maybe those you know or speak for? Please don't include "me" in your "we."
I don't subscribe to the progressive ideology, philosophy, sociology, psychology, or any other ology progressives says is good for us. Most of it is bent inward and self-serving. All of it is bent inward and self-serving.
Blessings, Mark
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 03:03 PM
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Mark June
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I don't see the "talking point" of not caring for others on this post. Me getting a vaccine (or not getting it) affects exactly 1persons life...mine.
It has zero affect on the elderly, the young or the tweeners. You sound pretty conservative for a hippie, hippie You just bristled the hackle hairs of grizzled trappers here on Man. Incoming!!!!!!!!!!! Blessings, Mark
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 03:56 PM
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Most cultures value their elders more than any other demographic because they are the repository of experience and real life knowledge. Western culture is becoming bankrupt in so many ways. Over half the U.S.Federal budget is spent on elders. Seems we are bankrupting ourselves we value them so much. So you are right we are becoming bankrupt. Please explain how half the budget is being spent on seniors. Understand that we paid payroll taxes our entire working careers. This makes social security and medicare a paid benefit and not an entitlement.
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