Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
[Re: Tim64]
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Please explain how half the budget is being spent on seniors. Understand that we paid payroll taxes our entire working careers. This makes social security and medicare and paid benefit and not an entitlement. I see your point and you are correct.......however my Dad worked for $1 a day as a young man and when he died his AL facility was $4500/month. A person cannot save enough money to retire on. If I had a million dollars to retire on today I would be broke if I live another 30 years.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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If you are a non-vaccer, how will you answer if polled?
I won't walk out in front of a car because of fear I guess. Or maybe I'm just smart enough to know not to.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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If you are a non-vaccer, how will you answer if polled?
I won't walk out in front of a car because of fear I guess. Or maybe I'm just smart enough to know not to. Surely you would walk out in front of a car for the elderly and the children?
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Coincidentally, the witch in Michigan said she will open that State when 70% of the eligible people are vaccinated. Someone call Dorothy, that witch needs a bucket of water.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Please explain how half the budget is being spent on seniors. Understand that we paid payroll taxes our entire working careers. This makes social security and medicare and paid benefit and not an entitlement. I see your point and you are correct.......however my Dad worked for $1 a day as a young man and when he died his AL facility was $4500/month. A person cannot save enough money to retire on. If I had a million dollars to retire on today I would be broke if I live another 30 years. I could live a lot longer than 30 years on a million bucks and not be broke. I've never made alot of money and seem to still be getting along fine and will continue to by living within my means and prudent spending.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
[Re: Dirt]
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19. Look at how much money is made by medical facilities (paid for by Medicaid) to keep folks alive much longer so naturally the longer people live the more it's gonna cost. And the less folks work the worse their health is going to be also. That seems to be a trend that isn't helping anything.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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05/01/21 05:07 PM
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19. Look at how much money is made by medical facilities (paid for by Medicaid) to keep folks alive much longer so naturally the longer people live the more it's gonna cost. And the less folks work the worse their health is going to be also. That seems to be a trend that isn't helping anything. Is this ^^^^^; 1. An argument for single payer, nationalized health care 2. A proposal to keep people at the grind all their lives, or 3. Just a run-of-the-mill progressive ideology that "non-productive" people - as defined by other people - are expendable? Might be all three?
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19. Look at how much money is made by medical facilities (paid for by Medicaid) to keep folks alive much longer so naturally the longer people live the more it's gonna cost. And the less folks work the worse their health is going to be also. That seems to be a trend that isn't helping anything. Not helping who-the collective? This is an example of the almighty dollar mentality.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19. You are totally dismissing the fact that Federal social insurance taxes are imposed on employers and employees, ordinarily consisting of a tax of 12.4% of wages up to an annual wage maximum ($118,500 in wages, for a maximum contribution of $14,694, and for Social Security and a tax of 2.9% (half imposed on employer and half withheld from the employee's pay) of all wages for Medicare. Which means that a good portion of this spending was already collected from the seniors over their careers. By the way, we had no choice in this matter and the money could have been handled much better if left in the hands of individuals. Did you ever hear of compound interest?
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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One major trip to a hospital for an extended stay and your done! Bankrupt with or without insurance. So to state ' i don't make alot of money but im doing ok and manage what i do make' is fine and dandy till you get older and have a major health issue. At that point all the great decision's you made in life go out the window.
Bottom line is health care is too expensive except for the mega rich! Simple as that.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Medical insurance federal or private should be illegal. Healthcare should be negotiated between the patient and provider of such medical care.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
[Re: Tim64]
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According to the CBO 40% of the 2018 budget was spent on programs for seniors; growing to 50% by 2029 Seniors make up 16% or so of the population, so they get an equal share of the other 58% spending this year of .16 X 58% plus we will say 42% this year which equals Approximately 51% and increasing. I could throw in all the money printed last year save seniors from Covid19. You are totally dismissing the fact that Federal social insurance taxes are imposed on employers and employees, ordinarily consisting of a tax of 12.4% of wages up to an annual wage maximum ($118,500 in wages, for a maximum contribution of $14,694, and for Social Security and a tax of 2.9% (half imposed on employer and half withheld from the employee's pay) of all wages for Medicare. Which means that a good portion of this spending was already collected from the seniors over their careers. By the way, we had no choice in this matter and the money could have been handled much better if left in the hands of individuals. Did you ever hear of compound interest? That fact does not change the fact that over half of the federal budget is spent on the elderly. It would appear western civilization values the elderly to me.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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The elderly in this country(of which I am almost one) will bankrupt this country and they'll blame it on the entitled kids they raised.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Medical insurance federal or private should be illegal. Healthcare should be negotiated between the patient and provider of such medical care. Nothing stopping you from going to a medicine man is there? Insurance is available for everything.Why outlaw insurance?
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Is this ^^^^^; 1. An argument for single payer, nationalized health care 2. A proposal to keep people at the grind all their lives, or 3. Just a run-of-the-mill progressive ideology that "non-productive" people - as defined by other people - are expendable?
Might be all three?
Just a statement. Not an argument. If I'm wrong point it out. What's really bad is the Gubmint is ignoring American citizens and handing trillions to foreign countries and illegal bodies. I see homeless people on the street that would love to live the life of a prison inmate. Nothing to worry about and everything is paid for.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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Medical insurance federal or private should be illegal. Healthcare should be negotiated between the patient and provider of such medical care. Nothing stopping you from going to a medicine man is there? Insurance is available for everything.Why outlaw insurance? Insurance shouldn't be illegal . The nearly 3000 ridiculous government mandates should be illegal Government involvement is the root cause of unaffordable health insurance . Period !!!!
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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear
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The elderly in this country(of which I am almost one) will bankrupt this country and they'll blame it on the entitled kids they raised.
I are one. 😎 I used to feel the same way as dirt but i grew up. Lol
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