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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256013
05/01/21 09:28 PM
05/01/21 09:28 PM

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Mark June
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I was explaining that blanket statements are not very accurate. You had several in your thesis Gary. As far as the government working for the people, some do and some don't. Representative government is designed for strife so no one gets a tyrannical advantage. We're just living that dream is all.

Many want gubmint - as you name it - to benefit "me" in any equation, but those "thems" are usually frowned upon.
I was just suggesting less piling people into silos - that's a progressive tactic - and deal with issues.
Progressives divide people. How about we champion issues?

Just a thought in this day and age of it's all about me-ville.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256073
05/01/21 10:24 PM
05/01/21 10:24 PM
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Maybe I'm a huge coward, scared to death of this killer vaccine.

Or, maybe logic says that a comparison of the risk of the vaccine vs the risk of the disease, says the vaccine just ain't worth it.

The term "scared" is just left wing propaganda designed to move people to take the vaccine to prove how much of a fearless, valiant patriot they are.

For example, take Joe Biden. A super patriot, to be sure. Not only did he go above and beyond the call of duty to get the shot; he also wears the mask. His only fear is that he will be in trouble if he loses the mask.


Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: Boco] #7256074
05/01/21 10:25 PM
05/01/21 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by J Staton
Medical insurance federal or private should be illegal. Healthcare should be negotiated between the patient and provider of such medical care.

Nothing stopping you from going to a medicine man is there?
Insurance is available for everything.Why outlaw insurance?

Eliminate the middle man. Insurance companies have millions of dollars at their disposal. Medical providers know this and charge accordingly. If medical providers had to directly deal with patients, most who don't have millions of dollars at their disposal, they would have to price accordingly. Medical providers have to eat too, so they want price themselves out of a job.


James 1: 19-20
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256078
05/01/21 10:32 PM
05/01/21 10:32 PM
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If you want cheap health care we have to end government paid for health care. Yes I suck the government teat for healthcare. I would give that up if ALL government healthcare was done away with. I bet you could get a heart transplant for 100k within a year.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: danny clifton] #7256084
05/01/21 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you want cheap health care we have to end government paid for health care. Yes I suck the government teat for healthcare. I would give that up if ALL government healthcare was done away with. I bet you could get a heart transplant for 100k within a year.

True. Government insurance is even worse than private insurance. Not healthcare but an example of .govs involvement in the private sector. I worked for several years remodeling grocery stores for a major chain. Some of their stores only existed in certain communities because of government money in the form of food stamps.


James 1: 19-20
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256142
05/02/21 03:03 AM
05/02/21 03:03 AM
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I got vaccinated. I am a 74 year old guinea pig. If I was under 50 years old, no way would I get it.

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256157
05/02/21 06:23 AM
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I think the number is higher than 31%. Just more propaganda to convince those folks who are scared of a new drug (me), that they are in the minority.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256163
05/02/21 06:53 AM
05/02/21 06:53 AM

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Mark June
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We live in a changing time for our country. For sure. More and more intolerance under banners of hate and intolerance.
Respect me!
Give me!
Do me!
Hear me!
See me!
Make me!

It's called self-righteousness. And it's age-old.

As a nation, we have legal boundaries crafted to protect individual liberty and keep the selfishness of collective groups of self-righteous humans in check.
But the American "system" of justice seems to be hijacked by those who don't seem to have to answer to the laws.

For that reason, and with the faith of judgment to come, me and mine oppose any and all who oppose God-given freedoms = what America was founded on.
That includes America's game.
CYA.
Not a penny.

[Linked Image]

Blessings,
Mark




Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256168
05/02/21 07:07 AM
05/02/21 07:07 AM
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Get used to it Mr. June. They are only 13% of the population and it will be a long time before the wave turns into WLM.


-Goofy-
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256169
05/02/21 07:07 AM
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Does the BLM on the diamond stand for "Baseball Loves Marxism"?


James 1: 19-20
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256175
05/02/21 07:19 AM
05/02/21 07:19 AM

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Mark June
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Get used to it Mr. June. They are only 13% of the population and it will be a long time before the wave turns into WLM.


Oh I'm used to it.

The serpent tickles eager ears for sure,
and skin color has nothing to do with the decision someone makes when they take the bait.

Trapping experience helps us.
Coyotes come in all shapes and colors and we don't discriminate grin

Blessings HT!
Mark

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256193
05/02/21 08:01 AM
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It's not fear I have It's more of a trust issue I can't trust someone that is so well known for lies.


No matter where you go there you are.
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256198
05/02/21 08:20 AM
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I would consider a vaccine, will not even consider what ever this injection is.

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256206
05/02/21 08:40 AM
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When I know a vaccine does what it supposed to do I would consider taking it. If it actually protects and prevents transmission of the virus then you have something.

Otherwise it does little from what I have researched. Not enough evidence of protection and no sound information on the side effects short term and long term.

Naturally developed circulatory antibody protection is the best there is for the body. I am concerned for many of those who have been injected. False hopes and failed promises.

There is a large percent of the population that has refused the vaccine. That is obvious due to all the TV ads pushing for the vaccine to be taken by as many as is possible by their standards.

I will move forward and take my chances as I have always done with the flu type viruses. I am a senior and don't live in fear at all. Any viral vaccine is only effective against a specific developed virus strain. Once it has mutated to any given degree that vaccine offers little to no protection. So wake up America.

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256211
05/02/21 08:54 AM
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No way will we do it, it's a waste of time

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256226
05/02/21 09:15 AM
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There are several issues. A: its false advertising as it is not a vaccine. B: The companies that make it have a wrap sheet as long as my arm with pharma products that were used other than their original intent, bribing doctors and a lot of other things. C: At this point I have a complete distrust in the government and don't trust them as far as I can kick a grand piano up a spiral staircase. D; They are trying to apply pressure to get people to take that stuff and I for one don't react well to that. One could say that I have a pressure allergy. There are a couple of other things but this will do for now. I have never had a flu shot in my life either and have never had the flu. But fear has nothing to do with my decision.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256240
05/02/21 09:37 AM
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My oncologist had me get it...not much of an immune system left.
So far so good after 2nd Pfizer shot.
I just can't afford to pick up anything lately...cold, flu, covid, whatever.
Jim

Last edited by jabNE; 05/02/21 09:37 AM.

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Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: jabNE] #7256246
05/02/21 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
My oncologist had me get it...not much of an immune system left.
So far so good after 2nd Pfizer shot.
I just can't afford to pick up anything lately...cold, flu, covid, whatever.
Jim

That's the way it should happen. Your doctor helping you, not some government bureaucrat.
Best of wishes to you

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256247
05/02/21 09:48 AM
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Not getting it. I don't get the regular flu shots every year either.
Don't see the need for it.
If we got the covid we'd have almost 100% of getting over it with no issues.
I have a very good immune system, I get over stuff pretty fast with minimal issues. I'd like to keep it that way, taking a vaccine won't improve my immune system.

Wife and I think we had the covid, we didn't get tested, don't see the point. We didn't suffer much, same as any seasonal flu pretty much.
If I got so sick that I couldn't stand it I'd go to the hospital. For a couple of days of feeling rough, why bother?

The covid thing has been blown way out of proportion.
My Dad died back in early Dec WITH the covid, not cause of the covid, big difference. My mom got a letter in the mail, she is eligible for money from the Gov't to help pay for funeral expenses. With all the money being tossed around by big Gov't its no wonder the medical establishment is making a big deal out of it.

Re: 31% Won’t Vaccinate from Fear [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7256262
05/02/21 10:07 AM
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There should be a vaccine for liberalism. As I think this country will die of it before I die of Covid


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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