Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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05/06/21 07:33 PM
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While I would argue against carrying weapons while intoxicated, the second amendment doesn't say that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless you're intoxicated. If a man is legitimately defending himself, does it matter whether or not he was drunk?
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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05/06/21 08:52 PM
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While I would argue against carrying weapons while intoxicated, the second amendment doesn't say that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless you're intoxicated. If a man is legitimately defending himself, does it matter whether or not he was drunk? And that was the one lone dissenting vote's argument. It was interesting to read the lower courts' decisions before it got to the WI Supreme Court.
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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If you have had a beer or two.
The State Supreme Court ruled the other day that a man was rightfully charged and convicted of having a firearm while having drinks after he was assaulted, disarmed in his own apartment. He then goes into his room, grabs a shotgun and called the police. Police show up and arrest him rather than the people who assaulted him. I'd like to think there was more to the story than we are getting on here A big times 2
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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On my concealed carry permit it says "Permit is invalid when the permittee is intoxicated" right on it. Fun killers. We're not talking about concealed carry out in the community....
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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If you have had a beer or two.
The State Supreme Court ruled the other day that a man was rightfully charged and convicted of having a firearm while having drinks after he was assaulted, disarmed in his own apartment. He then goes into his room, grabs a shotgun and called the police. Police show up and arrest him rather than the people who assaulted him. The way this is worded makes it seem like he was assaulted, and then decided to go home and get liquored up. Then he got angry, grabbed a gun, and decided for whatever reason to call the cops. One has to wonder why he didn't call the cops right away after he was assaulted instead of going home and having a few first.
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Re: WI - Cannot Carry On Private Property
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05/07/21 09:33 AM
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The account I read presented a bit more detail.
He was drinking at home with friends present. While drunk he pulled a gun on his friends.
Someone hit him in the chest and took the handgun away.
He went to his room and got a shotgun and confronted friends again while calling the cops.
The court determined that there was no self defense circumstance. He was the aggressor.
Good decision IMO yes , the ruling was that he was properly charged not that you can't have a beer and carry. had there been a real self defense event , like he is buzzed and sitting on the couch with his gun and his door gets kicked in and he shoots the home invader that would have been different. they basically said he wasn't in danger , he caused the issue and that charging him with intoxicated use of a firearm was appropriate as he was in his home but had threatened other occupants of the apartment. WI carry law is clear that you can not be the instigator of the issue and still claim your right to defense.
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