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TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... #7261146
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Package says lead only. Is it safe to shoot TSS through it? What say you all?

I have asked the question of Truglo and am awaiting their response, just curious what the consensus is among the tman folks.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261149
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Technically no. Same with Gobling Thunder. It's probably all right for a few shots but the temper of the metal in the tube is not hard enough.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261152
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I shot it thru a rem choke with no ill effects.


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mink 0
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beaver 1
yotes 7
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261160
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Looked at the Carlson site the only mention of what not to use was shot larger then #4 steel, sabots or buck shot in their turkey tubes


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261218
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TSS is very dense and will not compress like soft lead. I would not shoot TSS through a choke made for lead only.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261255
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261382
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No answer yet, but I only asked last night.
I like how the choke patterns lead so I'll probably just move on and not shoot the few rounds of TSS I have.
Still interested in the manufacturer response, I'll update the group if you all are interested


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261391
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261392
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Factory TSS loads use wads designed to prevent the shot from contacting the barrel or choke for that reason, so it should be fine. However they may not give you a specific answer since it was never tested for TSS shot.

Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261406
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Originally Posted by slydogx
Package says lead only. Is it safe to shoot TSS through it? What say you all?

I have asked the question of Truglo and am awaiting their response, just curious what the consensus is among the tman folks.


Trying not to be a b-hole but what part of lead only did you not understand ?

Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261416
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I have shot TSS through a couple chokes labeled lead only with no ill effects. I had chatted with a rep from Apex ammunition that makes great TSS ammo and they had performed testing without ill effects either. As mentioned above the wads is meant to protect the barrel. A lot of the confusion comes with the hardness which sometimes requires less constriction to get the same pattern with steel or harder shot. The TSS will be shot at a low round count anyway its not like you are shooting 1000's of round a year for sporting clays or something. At the recommendation of Apex I also don't shoot as tight a choke with TSS I.E alot of people shoot a .550 or .560 choke with standard turkey loads, I shoot a .565 iwth TSS and get nice even patterns and not that super hot pattern up close of the tighter constrictions.

Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: jbyrd63] #7261418
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63


Trying not to be a b-hole but what part of lead only did you not understand ?

Perhaps you don't understand that the choke tube in questions was made before TSS was really commercially available, and at one point "lead only" just meant no steel. It's a legitimate question he has. But one that I doubt he gets an answer for.

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Trying not to be a b-hole but what part of lead only did you not understand ?
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Totally legitimate question Jbyrd...this is entirely out of curiosity and because I happen to have a box of TSS shot laying around. I was paraphrasing the instructions and now that I re-read them it actually says "no steel shot" and not "lead only"

I have seen a lot of speculation on the internet while trying to research the answer so I thought maybe an answer straight from the manufacturer would help some folks on here who may also be curious.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261433
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I suspect the TSS manufacture will say good to go but the choke manufacture will say no go. That's what happened with Kicks when I asked the same question.


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TSS is fairly new on the market so lead only would be printed on chokes before it came about that would be common you would think, so how different is bismuth from TSS would be a good question to get a answer to also.

Carlson turkey chokes state no steel larger then #4 should be used in some of their turkey choke tubes at their site so it looks by that TSS would be fine seeing how it’s a smaller size shot. If that’s the way it reads it should be fine by that standard.


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Need to look at Carlsons, Long Creek or Jebs if you are wanting to shoot TSS

Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7261509
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Originally Posted by slydogx

Trying not to be a b-hole but what part of lead only did you not understand ?


Totally legitimate question Jbyrd...this is entirely out of curiosity and because I happen to have a box of TSS shot laying around. I was paraphrasing the instructions and now that I re-read them it actually says "no steel shot" and not "lead only"

I have seen a lot of speculation on the internet while trying to research the answer so I thought maybe an answer straight from the manufacturer would help some folks on here who may also be curious.

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LOL OK That makes it even more simple! IS TSS steel? IF so then there's your answer. IF people didn't take the leap how many hunters with "special turkey chokes could TSS manufactures sell to. ZERO or almost as stated some chokes allow steel bet they aren't choked down as much.

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by slydogx
Package says lead only. Is it safe to shoot TSS through it? What say you all?

I have asked the question of Truglo and am awaiting their response, just curious what the consensus is among the tman folks.


Trying not to be a b-hole but what part of lead only did you not understand ?


The lead only part has to do with steel shot being bigger ( #4 and larger). The larger steel shot will bridge in a tight choke due to it being much larger and harder. With tss the shot sizes (for turkey) go from #7 to #10.

It might say lead only, but I doubt it would be a good idea to shoot 00 buck through it. That is why most list shot sizes on the chokes.

Tss is not new, it has been around for a long time. It just became popular in the last few years. Pretty sure the guys that started working up loads for tss over 10 years ago did not have a tss choke. Go check out gobblernation.com. Lots of info on that site. There is even a thread for loading the larger shot sizes for coyotes. They have killing patterns at 80+ yards.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7262293
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No response as yet from Tru Glo... this is not unexpected as I assume it will take them several days to respond (if they do). I also reached out to Federal just to see if I could elicit a response from them.

I am of the opinion that Jbyrd63's last post and Jerry Jr. (and everyone else whose posts are similar) are probably right... that since the TSS shot is "not steel" and the warning on the packaging is "no steel shot" that it is probably just fine and I will probably go swat some paper with the TSS rounds to see if they pattern well out of the choke... but I am hoping for a response from the manufacturer.


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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke... [Re: slydogx] #7262302
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Only thing is sly IT IS steel shot. tungsten is steel that is harder than normal steel shot..
I wouldn't shoot it......Not in a turkey choke marked NO STEEL !!! Just put you a plain full choke back in if it came with one. Heck according to the koolaid drinkers it will pattern so good you can shoot it out of an improved cylinder !!!

Found this on internet.
considered steel shot?

designs, pellet materials and cleaner burning powders have changed things dramatically. In fact, Tungsten Super Shot or TSS is slowly becoming the gold standard –tungsten's density is nearly identical to gold– as tungsten is nearly twice as dense as lead and five times harder than steel




Third, TSS pellets are very hard, like HEVI-Shot and steel shot, requiring steel-shot-type wads to properly protect barrels and chokes from scoring and erosion. And fourth, TSS pellets are the roundest, smoothest, most uniform-sized pellets I have ever seen or tested.

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