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Electric military vehicle #7261358
05/10/21 08:24 AM
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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261362
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Makes sense to me. All the infantry has to do is haul in some big generators and fuel now so there patrol/observation vehicles can operate in a war zone. Will work lot better than just hauling fuel.


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261371
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Not to mention the gov. contracts of course GM will build them in their chinese facilities to save our taxpayer's money


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261383
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that is going to look cute in some movie , but didn't we learn , the hard way ARMOR is what was needed.

watched a thing on the Duce and a half armored gun ships they built and how effective they were , built from necessity with scavenged armor

much easier to focus on shooting back when you don't have to focus on getting shot


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261388
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Next there'll be financial aid to countries that we may get into our next war with, so they can install a grid of charging points to recharge our military vechiles in the even of a US intervention.
Its a brilliant plan if ya ask me.
Do those turnips in charge start drinking before the sun is over the yardarm to come up with these crackpot ideas ?? Or are they on some other stuff ??

I can hear it now.


Sorry sir, we cant bring in ground troops. They have different plugs than us , so we cant plug our fighting vechiles in to charge up.


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261437
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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261449
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They will have their place.......Off the top of my head they are quieter than gas even with the Special Ops muffler systems we run. They will not replace the line grunts vehicles but can see them being run by the tier 1 units.

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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261463
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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261467
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in basically every single bad situation that we lost a bunch of guys in , we were short one or more of 5 things

AMMO , Water/food , communications , Fuel , or Armor

in some our men were simply told to hold indefensible positions which resulted in these 5 issues of supply

just given the number of times 24 hours turned into 36 or 72 are you going to send every vehicle with 4-5 times the battery it will need

could there be a use for these in some specific theater of battel , possibly , wouldn't they be better as a hybrid self charging system because invariably there will be supply issues.

where they could be useful is moving men around the base and for home base security , remote bases of operations running on generator would make no sense at all.

out current vehicles can run on multi fuel , if it burns you can probably get it to run , motor oil and gas mix , #2 jet A , Jet B , K1 , even some K1 and cooking oil mix and you can drive.
most things get run on Jet A one fuel runs planes , chopper, trucks , generators , and more.

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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261680
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I would think until the weight and charging issues were worked out it would be a real problem to incorporate an all electric fleet in combat zones. When I was last in in the mid 70's the multi fuel trucks would burn diesel or gas.There were placards on the deuce and a halfs and 5 tons that said NO AVIATION fuel.Cold weather is a battery killer as well and would need addressed.

I could see them being able to make less complicated to work on then the new all electronic controlled systems in use in today's vehicles. A quick change battery system could be done fairly easily as well.


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261695
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Does armor protect the batteries from an EMP?


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261739
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Comrade xiden will destroy the US military in short order.....he has started already.


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: J Staton] #7261742
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Does armor protect the batteries from an EMP?

No.
Lead or a farriday cage.

Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: wetdog] #7261758
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by J Staton
Does armor protect the batteries from an EMP?

No.
Lead or a farriday cage.

Would added weight to accommodate such measures increase energy needed to operate said vehicles?


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261772
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Lead yes. Would have to be very thick. 8-10 inches
The cage might cause some interference on all the electronic equipment

Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7261781
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This is purely political! We're circling the drain my friends can't you feel it?


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: Drifter] #7261792
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Originally Posted by Drifter
I would think until the weight and charging issues were worked out it would be a real problem to incorporate an all electric fleet in combat zones. When I was last in in the mid 70's the multi fuel trucks would burn diesel or gas.There were placards on the deuce and a halfs and 5 tons that said NO AVIATION fuel.Cold weather is a battery killer as well and would need addressed.

I could see them being able to make less complicated to work on then the new all electronic controlled systems in use in today's vehicles. A quick change battery system could be done fairly easily as well.



they recommend running a quart of motor oil to lube the injectors for every 5-10 gallons of gas

I suspect the av gas warning had something to do with Ethanol or Methanol in some of the av gas , 100 low lead ave gas with a quart of oil new or used filtered and or hydraulic fluid or AFT to lube the injectors per every 7 gallons should run fine

jet A is basically Kerosene

Jet B is basically 30% kerosene and 70% gasoline

JP-5 is approximately winterized diesel a low flash point Kerosene or K1



the warning may have also been that Jet A and B lack the lube of diesel or motor K1 , but they would burn fine and be fine with a little oil to lube the injectors

#2 home heating oil should work also you may have to change filters a bit more as it has a lot more wax solids

either way it is a very versatile design and run the best on #2 diesel


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7262102
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As I recall we always ran the diesel in em. Was kind of confusing as they all had spark plugs. They had the waterproof wires that were sealed all the way from distributor to and including the plugs with a copper loom. The M 88 tank retriever ran gas powered by a 12 cylinder air cooled engine. The rest were diesel other then the jeeps as I recall.


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7262132
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they can run gas but it shortens the life as I understand it , it is a lot to do with the lubrication

running #2 diesel is by far the best , if you have it


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Re: Electric military vehicle [Re: corky] #7262234
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and all will be hoisting a white flag, smh

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