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Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby #7261926
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You recone the horse was drugged. Or what?

Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7261945
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Like in many cases the horses are just a pawn or tool of those who work hard to color outside the lines as much as they can. Rap sheet is fairly long as well. If upheld the trainer may be banned forever from the Derby. May the next chemist rise to the front.

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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7261947
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Is anything legitimate anymore?


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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262036
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I hope that the sport isn't as bad as it was painted.

Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262039
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Well if you don't have the fastest horse just drug the competition.

Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262050
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In any elite level competitions there is a ton of shenanigans going on.

Horse racing is as bad as it gets.


Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.


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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262056
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I've long been a fan of Awesome Again, so my horse (Hot Rod Charlie) may go from third to second...Also, HRC did not fail any drug tests, he's just from Awesome stock!!!


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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262062
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I don't feel that it is right to pick winners and loosers. All horses should recieve participation trophies.

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So if winning horse is DQ'd, do the winning betters have to give the money back?

Is Churchill Downs gonna pay out on new and improved finish results?

Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262127
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Originally Posted by nate
You recone the horse was drugged. Or what?


I believe it isn't if performance enhancing drugs were used , it was if they could get it clean enough to beat the test in time or if the drug cocktail had just a little too much of the wrong ingredient to show on the test.


with the money at stake a weekly drug test from 12 weeks before the race for every entry should be required and make sure it is done by the track vet and not any vet.

same goes for athletes , drug test every one from the start of spring or fall training depending on the sport want to make millions , try it clean


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They are not going to change the bet payouts.

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Baffert has reputation of being a bit slimmey. California turns a blind eye to his questionable tactics. KY may make an example out of him. Me personally I donít have an opinion.

Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: learch] #7262262
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Originally Posted by learch
Baffert has reputation of being a bit slimmey. California turns a blind eye to his questionable tactics. KY may make an example out of him. Me personally I donít have an opinion.


Kentucky should...


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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: nate] #7262269
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Know zip about horse racing, but pre-race the trainer was interviewed with bill belichick. I thought to myself, "there's the winner" cause nobody knows how to skirt the rules better than belichick. Birds of a feather.....

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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: walleye101] #7262275
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Originally Posted by walleye101
I don't feel that it is right to pick winners and loosers. All horses should recieve participation trophies.


Best idea ever!!!


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Re: Anyone have thoughts or insight on the derby [Re: Ringneck1] #7262277
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Originally Posted by Ringneck1
Know zip about horse racing, but pre-race the trainer was interviewed with bill belichick. I thought to myself, "there's the winner" cause nobody knows how to skirt the rules better than belichick. Birds of a feather.....

Lol I like the way u think

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