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retired military officers voted #7263409
05/13/21 07:11 AM
05/13/21 07:11 AM
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Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263460
05/13/21 08:55 AM
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Maybe Biden will hire James to write his response grin


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263480
05/13/21 09:33 AM
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I think it's great. A timely reminder to the troops to remind them who and what they serve.

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: Posco] #7263491
05/13/21 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Posco
I think it's great. A timely reminder to the troops to remind them who and what they serve.

This makes me think.....in basic training, are recruits taught anything about the constitution? Like are they taught what the constitution says, what it means, and to obey the constitution? Or are they just taught to obey orders?

I know their oath requires them to obey all lawful orders, but are they taught how to differentiate between a lawful order and an unlawful one?

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: loosegoose] #7263495
05/13/21 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Posco
I think it's great. A timely reminder to the troops to remind them who and what they serve.

This makes me think.....in basic training, are recruits taught anything about the constitution? Like are they taught what the constitution says, what it means, and to obey the constitution? Or are they just taught to obey orders?

I know their oath requires them to obey all lawful orders, but are they taught how to differentiate between a lawful order and an unlawful one?


Generally, no . Long time since I went to basic . But , at NCO Academies, that is a topic discussed . After all, that's a big part of a NCO's job .


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263496
05/13/21 09:58 AM
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I am a retired military officer. I do not trust your news source. Not happy with the current situation but I cannot imagine that the military (a very large absentee voting group) is saying that ballots are unsafe.

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: charles] #7263510
05/13/21 10:32 AM
05/13/21 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
I am a retired military officer. I do not trust your news source. Not happy with the current situation but I cannot imagine that the military (a very large absentee voting group) is saying that ballots are unsafe.


The fact that they are sayin it is very telling to me anyway- maybe you will catch on eventually. whistle


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: charles] #7263517
05/13/21 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
I am a retired military officer. I do not trust your news source. Not happy with the current situation but I cannot imagine that the military (a very large absentee voting group) is saying that ballots are unsafe.


Here is another, I can find you a hundred others.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reti...eories-letter_n_609c1d0ae4b0909247feb276


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263518
05/13/21 10:41 AM
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/1...d-those-currently-in-office-accountable/

Here is a better article with the actual letter published and the signatories.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263524
05/13/21 10:53 AM
05/13/21 10:53 AM
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Facts don't matter to some Steve- sorry


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263529
05/13/21 11:01 AM
05/13/21 11:01 AM
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Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
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to each his own,,facts didnt matter to dems either

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263545
05/13/21 11:33 AM
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Well we all had to work for those kind of officers at some point in time.


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: charles] #7263549
05/13/21 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
I am a retired military officer. I do not trust your news source. Not happy with the current situation but I cannot imagine that the military (a very large absentee voting group) is saying that ballots are unsafe.


I believe there may be a difference between Absentee and the unsolicited mail out ballots that happened in some states.

there is a serious chain of custody issue with how many of the ballots were collected.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263553
05/13/21 11:45 AM
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It doesn't take a West Point education to smell a rat in this election. At this point anyone who says otherwise is either complicit in treason or suffers from terminal cranio- rectal inversion.


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7263556
05/13/21 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by charles
I am a retired military officer. I do not trust your news source. Not happy with the current situation but I cannot imagine that the military (a very large absentee voting group) is saying that ballots are unsafe.


I believe there may be a difference between Absentee and the unsolicited mail out ballots that happened in some states.

there is a serious chain of custody issue with how many of the ballots were collected.



I'll agree that the mail in ballot ruse was a huge problem. The time to have challenged that was last summer when all of the changes to procedure were being made--not whine about fraud now and forever.

By the way, I am not saying you are whining (just quoting your post because I agree!).

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263560
05/13/21 11:57 AM
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Challenges were made the corrupt courts blocked it.


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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: warrior] #7263564
05/13/21 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Challenges were made the corrupt courts blocked it.


Yep
I wish people would educate themselves on what happened before posting.

Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263570
05/13/21 12:04 PM
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I have been saying since days after the election the only way we move Forward as a nation without significant and irreputable division is AIR Tight elections.

observers from every candidate on the ballot certifying every step and procedure was followed and zero possibility of fraud.


it won't happen not the way it needs to , one side likes it broke


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263573
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Re: retired military officers voted [Re: west river rogue] #7263575
05/13/21 12:29 PM
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We have a battle of the retired generals and admirals. Remember when this group of retired brass openly supported Biden last fall?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ndorse-biden-including-some-who-n1240842

Note: I think Biden is awful and I think all of these open letter writers should find a new hobby.

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