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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7266873
05/18/21 11:35 AM
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Pre Roe v Wade moral teachings were highly effective. I graduated in 1980 small rural community:
7th grader had a baby
8th grader had a baby
9th grade 2 babies
10th grade 2 babies
11th grade 1 baby
12th grade 3 babies

Know of numerous abortions pre and post Roe. When they were illegal they still happened.

Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: Bear Tracker] #7266970
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
Pre Roe v Wade moral teachings were highly effective. I graduated in 1980 small rural community:
7th grader had a baby
8th grader had a baby
9th grade 2 babies
10th grade 2 babies
11th grade 1 baby
12th grade 3 babies

Know of numerous abortions pre and post Roe. When they were illegal they still happened.





Yes this is true however if the mother's life is in mortal danger because she is going through a back alley abortion it sure cuts down on them. Now a days all those children would most likely have been aborted. I would like to see what social worth those children born have now and what their loved ones would think if you were to kill them at their present age. You helped prove a point. LLL


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7266972
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Hippie I know you believe in the Constitution and probably agree that the Preamble to it is part of said Constitution. I just don't see how abortion could be considered constitutional since the Preamble states that we guarantee the Liberty to posterity. How can we secure such liberty if posterity is aborted away?


I agree, it should be settled on that. Not on the Bible or we open whole nother can of worms. The only reason I brought that up is the posts referring to the Bible and on that my opinion is like I stated, and the constitutions states.....separation of Church and State.

Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267001
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Church from state.


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: danny clifton] #7267003
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
What are we going to do with all the baby's and subsequent rise in crime when all the babies get saved?



Danny, there is around 2,000,000 US families, actively enrolled to adopt available babies. That's 36 families for every baby available for adoption in the US. 3,477,000 US women, with fertility problems, are interested in adopting babies. Most want to adopt more babies, after the first.

https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/waiting_adoptive_families

Over 81,000,000 Americans have considered adopting. Families know the chances of being able to adopt a baby is exceedingly slim.

There is a huge shortage of babies to adopt.

Keith

Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267006
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Illegal and risk didn't stop them and won't. I don't agree with abortion laws but laugh at the idea of the moral teaching concept and or parent. I also want to add some where earlier someone stated the girls-women being responsible, which I agree with but also so should be the males as well. Humans are going to to have sex, period.

Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267014
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Like it or not most of those couples are white and want white babies. The rest are homosexuals. Something most anti abortion people don't like either.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267019
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^^^^^^ This first sentence is absolutely not accurate. Mixed race adoptive scenarios are common just as marriages are.
As one small example here in Dallas, I school with families with the other 169 families in our married housing. Average age is 34.
48% are mixed race marriages.
22% are mixed race adoptive parents.

By 2050, 1/2 of those in America will not have been born here according to the Census data. The days of any particular ethnic race in America being non-integrated is a perverse lie of our times.


Blessings,
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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267117
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My oldest daughter adopted a three day old black infant. Judah is now going on three years old and he's thriving. [Linked Image]

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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267187
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That's awesome Posco.

I have friends that adopted 2 Chinese babies.

Another set of friends adopts and fosters many children all the time. They currently have 8 adopted children living with them. Probably another 10 adopted that are now married or in college.


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: danny clifton] #7267199
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
What are we going to do with all the baby's and subsequent rise in crime when all the babies get saved?



Ya mean by not using the jillions types of birth control that are available for free or next to nothing ? Get real. Abortion is a barbaric practice that needs to go the way of lobotomies .


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267213
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Except birth control is not being used. There is even a day after pill now. I dont like abortion either. Making it illegal again wont change anything. Will be as effective as laws against prostitution and meth amphetamine.

My sister adopted two kids born in Korea. What does that have to do with the fact that most white couples only want a white baby, and then only if its not born a drug addict?

Like it not another fact of life is teen agers are going to copulate. Take em to church every day and they will still do it. Probably in the church basement or a closet. Telling them they are defective somehow if they want birth control, or get pregnant is why there is so much abortion. Girls used to go help a great aunt care for an aging uncle when they got pregnant. At least that was the story for neighbors when they went to the home for unwed mothers. A place to hide from the neighbors till the baby was born. Prostitutes went to DRs and even medical students willing to break the law. I guess we could bring all that back. Build even more prisons......


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #7267216
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Abortion is a barbaric practice that needs to go the way of lobotomies .

It really is unspeakable, particularly the late term abortions. There is something incredibly wrong with a human being that can participate in that. Speaking primarily of the provider.

Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: danny clifton] #7267218
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Except birth control is not being used. There is even a day after pill now. I dont like abortion either. Making it illegal again wont change anything. Will be as effective as laws against prostitution and meth amphetamine.

My sister adopted two kids born in Korea. What does that have to do with the fact that most white couples only want a white baby, and then only if its not born a drug addict?

Like it not another fact of life is teen agers are going to copulate. Take em to church every day and they will still do it. Probably in the church basement or a closet. Telling them they are defective somehow if they want birth control, or get pregnant is why there is so much abortion. Girls used to go help a great aunt care for an aging uncle when they got pregnant. At least that was the story for neighbors when they went to the home for unwed mothers. A place to hide from the neighbors till the baby was born. Prostitutes went to DRs and even medical students willing to break the law. I guess we could bring all that back. Build even more prisons......


But but but ...and and and ...ad nauseam

There's no reason for unwanted pregnancies . None.


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267222
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Watch this video.
I don't care how anyone thinks they can justify abortion; regardless of their color, race or the mother's socioeconomic status.
If you think you can justify it, I challenge you to watch this video. If after watching this if you still think it is okay, may God have mercy on you, you will need it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A16gzm9eaa8

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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267232
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Save the owl egg.
Eliminate the human.
Same old, same old game plan from the prince of darkness.
He's been whispering & weaving that same backwards plan (beasts ruling over humans vs. the original creation plan of humans as ambassadors over the birds, fish, and beasts) since the 1st Garden.

It's just plain sad to witness the sorrow some life decisions bring about and abortion continues to rank high on that list.
We pray for healing for many who lose a little... or all, during decisions like these.

Blessings,
Mark



Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267252
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If you really want to make it a crime again it will require a constitutional amendment. It is very unlikely the supremes will ever say Roe V Wade was the wrong judgement.


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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: ] #7267261
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Save the owl egg.
Eliminate the human.
Same old, same old game plan from the prince of darkness.



Except humans are NOT being eliminated. Population is growing at an astonishing rate. I thought there for a couple weeks covid was going to kill a bunch of us off. Sooner or later something will.

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Re: SCOTUS To Hear MS Abortion Law [Re: danny clifton] #7267267
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Originally Posted by danny clifton

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Save the owl egg.
Eliminate the human.
Same old, same old game plan from the prince of darkness.



Except humans are NOT being eliminated. Population is growing at an astonishing rate. I thought there for a couple weeks covid was going to kill a bunch of us off. Sooner or later something will.


Say what? 60 million (we're told) and counting. I'd say unless proven otherwise, aborted humans are eliminated > defined as "gone" from earth.

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Originally Posted by Posco
My oldest daughter adopted a three day old black infant. Judah is now going on three years old and he's thriving. [Linked Image]


Posco,
The little one on momma's lap has a wonderful peaceful smile.
Very cool.

May your tribe increase!
LIterally.
Blessings,
Mark

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