actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 02:23 PM
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I was putting new line on some poles and had some left on the spool
I had bought a reel with line on it a month ago and wondered what that thick mono with a lot of memory was so grab the scale and tie 2 loops one around the scale one around my foot and pull broke at 17-18 pounds in a few attempts.
the new line is 65# Berkeley Big game braid first test had a leader with a hook put the loop of the leader around a hammer handle and hook on the scale 27 pounds
then I get tot thinking well what if I get to a much higher poundage before the scale has tome to register
i have a 50 pound dumb bell tie a loop put it around the grip , second loop on scale pull 28 pounds pow the line breaks
I read the line needs to be wet , wet line and repeat , now all of this is brand new line off the spool just a minute earlier
the 40 pound mono is breaking at 19-20 and the 65 pound braid is 27-28
both breaking about half of listed
so how do they really figure break strength ?
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 02:30 PM
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Where is it breaking? In the middle or at the knot? Most breaks occur at the knot, hence they recommend certain knots for braid vs mono. I use nothing but braid and sometimes unfortunately I’ve never broke it.
Last edited by Wanna Be; 05/21/21 02:30 PM.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 03:30 PM
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How much line are you using? Fishing line needs to stretch. Short lines will break faster than long because you're not allowing for all the stretch. Braid don't stretch.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 03:44 PM
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It is all about knot strength. Most of the better knots test around 80%. Most non IGFA certified line is stronger than listed on the spool. Will kick your line class record into a higher line class where it may not be a record.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 03:44 PM
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GCP I have tested a lot of line seems that line not tied but wrapped two to 4 times around a nail on both ends and put over the hook on the scale will almost always break within a pound or two of line rating. But if tied to the scale breaks much sooner also snell knots on two hooks and then hang one hook to the scale and one to hang weights will get better results as well.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 03:57 PM
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How much line are you using? Fishing line needs to stretch. Short lines will break faster than long because you're not allowing for all the stretch. Braid don't stretch. It does. But not as much as mono. But breaking strength isn’t dependent on stretch, 2’ will break at the same force as 200’.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 04:38 PM
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Trade secret: When you buy a reel already spooled with line, look on the spool for the capacity ratings. It will show how many yds of 3 different weight lines it will hold. The middle one is what it come with.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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center line breaks on most of the half dozen or so tests so far
I had a snelled hook and a figure 8 not making a loop on my first test the line break was about 4 inches above the hook I have been doing figure 8 nots at both ends since I shot the first hook clear across the room took a while to find it.
I looked up some better knots and with the 50 pound weight now I am getting mid line breaks about 36-38 pounds I can work with that but it is no where near the 65# expected break point
it could be that it is the short line length of about 4 feet
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 04:56 PM
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I wonder if that rating is based on a Static test or with the cushioning effect of the pole?
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 05:39 PM
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If you want to test the line and not the knot, do away with the knot and use wraps on a polished mandrel like trapsetter recomended. The figure 8 loop is quick but not very strong. Rapala knot (loop) is a little stronger but not much. Palomar, improved clinch, worlds fair, blood, Berkeley trilieen, surgeon, and nail (snell). are the only knots I use for fishing line. And then it depends on the application and type of line.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 06:26 PM
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Trade secret: When you buy a reel already spooled with line, look on the spool for the capacity ratings. It will show how many yds of 3 different weight lines it will hold. The middle one is what it come with. Interesting. Good tip. Thanks for posting.
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Re: actual break strength of fishing line
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05/21/21 07:12 PM
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Where is the line made, I bet China or Japan. I did a lot of casting in my day. If I had new line on the reel it was hard to set the hook because there so much stretch. Once I had load the line, I would tie one end to something and let out 100 ft. of line and pull on it to take a lot of the stretch out of the line. It worked for me. JMO
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