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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272354
05/25/21 06:27 PM
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Well it has been a long while since I was on FB but yeah I see your point. Last I knew it was a haven for stoopid or narcisistic types


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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272362
05/25/21 06:45 PM
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[quote1) I'm not sure youtube isnt actually worse &][/quote]

Youtube is a Google operation.

Yeah, people can try other platforms but then watch what happened to Parler early on, a gang=pile of big tech to silence any opposition-- they needed to bring in AWS (Amazon Web Services) to do that by not allowing Parler any server capacity without buying/building their own. AWS is one of the largest, if not the largest, supplier of cloud computing to the U.S. government.

As bowhunter has pointed out, most of the global digital information flow is only through a handful of big companies who have each other's back. Most people are being played and don't even know it. Some of my tinfoil people are on other, more minor platforms such as Bitchute (I think out of the UK) and Telegram. Some of these other places are fighting back but the big guys gained advantage under Uncle Sugar's protection that still exists.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: loosegoose] #7272377
05/25/21 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
How is it any different that Mr. Dobbins controlling what gets talked about on this site? Both are private companies, and as such, can allow or prevent whatever content they want.



I will tell you how it is different. The book site says it dosen't discriminate against anyone and only removes content that is false. But as you are aware it does discriminate against anyone who dosen't fall in line with the predetermined correct think. Whereas this fine site has the rules listed up front in less than a half a page and spells out exactly what will get a user removed. These two sites are not at all alike and you trolling along trying to compare them makes you look weak minded and slow. Please wake up but don't go woke.


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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272403
05/25/21 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
To those who are unplugged, this post is about how big tech is in bed with big media and controlling the narrative and propaganda exactly like the Nazi's did.

To ignore it will only make it worse.

Information is power.


I don’t have to watch the news or be on FB to find the enemy. They have shown themselves long ago and I govern myself accordingly.


-Goofy-
Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: Trap Setter] #7272421
05/25/21 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
Originally Posted by loosegoose
How is it any different that Mr. Dobbins controlling what gets talked about on this site? Both are private companies, and as such, can allow or prevent whatever content they want.



I will tell you how it is different. The book site says it dosen't discriminate against anyone and only removes content that is false. But as you are aware it does discriminate against anyone who dosen't fall in line with the predetermined correct think. Whereas this fine site has the rules listed up front in less than a half a page and spells out exactly what will get a user removed. These two sites are not at all alike and you trolling along trying to compare them makes you look weak minded and slow. Please wake up but don't go woke.

Who cares what each site's rules are? That's irrelevant. The fact is that a privately owned website can host whatever content they want.

What's the other choice? What do you think Facebook should do? Do you think the government should force them to allow content they don't want? That doesn't seem like a very conservative idea.

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272423
05/25/21 08:28 PM
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LG,

Most of these new conservatives are not actually conservatives. They love big government as long as it's their big government.

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272427
05/25/21 08:33 PM
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I’ll repost that for you when Bill Gates’ Mexicans are farming your land and you are making 300 rubles a month working for the government filling out their citizenship paperwork. LMAO!


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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272431
05/25/21 08:39 PM
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You packed a lot of crazy into one long sentence. Nice work.

Thank you for keeping a list of my posts for future posting. I'm consistent so it's not really necessary--but you do you.

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272433
05/25/21 08:46 PM
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Let’s see, FB is a private company and can censor what they chose and the government shouldn’t interfere...
But a private baker can refuse to bake a cake and the government steps in and shuts them down...
What am I missing?

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272437
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Comparing Tman to Facebook is like comparing Apples to Angels, it's asinine.

Even Google could not compete with Facebook in the social media realm, they hold a Monopoly. Beyond Monopolizing the social media space Big Tech clearly works in concert to hurt any competition that attempts to arise. If Facebook is going to control the information released on it's platform while promoting ideas they like and censoring those they don't then they need to be treated as a Publisher and be held responsible for the content of their site.

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: Wanna Be] #7272438
05/25/21 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Let’s see, FB is a private company and can censor what they chose and the government shouldn’t interfere...
But a private baker can refuse to bake a cake and the government steps in and shuts them down...
What am I missing?


My recollection is that the cake baker won at the Supreme Court.

I don't want the government intervening in much of anything. That's why we have the Bill of Rights--to keep the government from doing so.

And as stupid and destructive as I think Facebook is, it is a private company like you said. It can censor one group and allow another to scream as loud as it wants. I agree, there are some inconsistencies as Facebook seems like something more than just a private company.

I think all social media is destroying our country, by the way--as I type this on an internet forum....

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: loosegoose] #7272449
05/25/21 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
That's irrelevant. The fact is that a privately owned website can host whatever content they want.

What's the other choice? What do you think Facebook should do? Do you think the government should force them to allow content they don't want? That doesn't seem like a very conservative idea.



Not irrelevant at all the book site hides behind the government's rules and states it does not publish content. Yet at the same time it removes any content it does not agree with and does not follow it's own guidelines therefore becoming the editor/publisher it claimed it is not. Should they follow the laws they hide behind? Is that a real question?

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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: loosegoose] #7272450
05/25/21 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
How is it any different that Mr. Dobbins controlling what gets talked about on this site? Both are private companies, and as such, can allow or prevent whatever content they want.


There is a big difference between the two sites. Facebook and sites like twitter are covered under Section 230 whereupon they can’t be sued for content true or untrue that is posted on their site and as such agreed to operate without censor. Section 230 was intended for these sites to be a free avenue of public opinion. It’s obviously blatant these same sites are censoring. As a consequence of their censorship - section 230 protection should be repealed if our government truely cared about free speech.

I doubt Mr. Dobbins is afforded the Section 230 protection

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: loosegoose] #7272458
05/25/21 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
How is it any different that Mr. Dobbins controlling what gets talked about on this site? Both are private companies, and as such, can allow or prevent whatever content they want.

It wouldn't hurt if they admitted to doing it. Same for the MSM.

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272471
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Facebook has been suppressing the other side of the experimental vaccine discussion. I am sure all the others are also. it explains why other information is so difficult to find.

This shows what I have been saying all along. The enemy is big tech and big media. They control the politicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Requt9zXN04


And that surprises you why ???

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272586
05/26/21 12:02 AM
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When private companies are able to steer public opinions enough to sway elections then it is an issue for everyone to be concerned about. Action should be taken to allow open and free dialogue on those venues or they should be done away with.


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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272598
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A lot of conservative people whine about Facebook. Ive asked several why they dont just delete it then? Everyones answer is the same: “ its how i stay in touch with friends and family.” The real answer is: “ im addicted to Facebook.” Phones function even better nowadays than before FB was around and youll find out who you are actually close to when you delete that crap. Get off facebook!

Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: Blaine County] #7272634
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
LG,

Most of these new conservatives are not actually conservatives. They love big government as long as it's their big government.


You mean like making people mow their grass? Big government starts somewhere

I agree with your premise though, people need to get off FB encourage their friends and family as well. Let the market decide not a bureaucracy

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Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: loosegoose] #7272638
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
How is it any different that Mr. Dobbins controlling what gets talked about on this site? Both are private companies, and as such, can allow or prevent whatever content they want.

Mr Dobbins doesn't promote false narrative.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Facebook suppressing dialogue [Re: bowhunter27295] #7272654
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I've heard MeWe is supposed to be good and not censor stuff, and claim to have their own servers so that unlike Parler they can't be shut down by the competition. But, I don't do Facebook or other social media and aren't interested in doing so. So I haven't checked MeWe out, those of you who can't seem to function without Facebook, Twitter, etc. should probably check it out though. A little competition in the marketplace wouldn't hurt.

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