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Brass Bolts #7271743
05/24/21 09:20 PM
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This might be dumb question but do the brass bolts really help take the wobble out of pans on LS traps? I have been playing with PIT pans and was wondering whether a night latched dog and a wobble free pan is an equivalent solution. If so, could replace the dog with a stainless already notched dog?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7271847
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Not so much of a "dumb" question, but more of a vague question. What type of conection does the pan have on your "LS traps"? Are they a post/pan type of a clamp on type of pan connection?

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7271867
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I don't think the material is so much the issue as making sure the pan and the pan post holes are the same size. If the bolt hole on the pan is bigger than the pan post holes, you'll have slop no .matter what you do. You'll have to drill the pan post holes out to the same size and put the proper sized bolt in.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7271882
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What you need to do Is make sure the pan posts and the pan shank have equal pressure. If when you tighten the pan bolt and the pan posts don't create even pressure against the pan shank your going to have wobble and a false drop. You need to place a few washers between the pan shank and the pan posts to get It right.


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Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7271933
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The advantage of the brass bolts is they won't rust or corrode up like other bolts, so they won't corrode to either the pan or nut. Therefore you can adjust them forever.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: bearcat2] #7271954
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
The advantage of the brass bolts is they won't rust or corrode up like other bolts, so they won't corrode to either the pan or nut. Therefore you can adjust them forever.


Anyone around brackist and salt water. Knows why I use stainless steel. Brass is my second choice.


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Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7271959
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I also use stainless. Usually go up a size for the bolt and add one or two washers next to the pan shank, then put the appropriate size nylon lock nut on the end. works well for me.



Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Newt] #7272604
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Originally Posted by Newt
Originally Posted by bearcat2
The advantage of the brass bolts is they won't rust or corrode up like other bolts, so they won't corrode to either the pan or nut. Therefore you can adjust them forever.


Anyone around brackist and salt water. Knows why I use stainless steel. Brass is my second choice.

You don't have problems with the stainless rusting? I have stainless rifles that are rusted from being out in the wet so much and not being taken in a cleaned up oiled, I would figure traps in tidewater would be much worse. I actually trapped some brackish/tide water a little when I was a kid, but not more than a few days and I certainly didn't have any traps with stainless or brass bolts on them. Heck, none of my traps had bolts!

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7272635
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I replaced the brass bolts with ss and also added plastic from a milk jug between pan shank and pan post worked out good.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7273200
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the input. Mine are Bridger #4s. I run a lot of MB 550s and am just playing with something different. This was helpful.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7276125
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I’ve never tinkered with the Bridgers, but on Blake n Lambs and Victor longsprings, I tried the brass bolt thing and that was ok. I eventually ended up with a proper Night-latch, and took the slop out by giving a nice smack on the frame where the Pan couples with the frame. That worked out real good for them Nevada Cats.

Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7280844
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As was already mentioned the wobble, or lack of is from the pan, pan post and pan hole diameter/mechanical fit. Aside from a corrosion aspect I don’t see the advantage of a brass nut and bolt.

After playing with a couple of Sleepy Creek traps (1.5 & 1.75) that have brass bolts and nuts they loosen up every time I fire the trap. A stainless nylock nut and bolt would be a lot better.


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Re: Brass Bolts [Re: Blaine County] #7281384
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bearcat2,

Any rifle stainless will be in the 400 series stainless category. Will have carbon as one of the constituents to make it possible to be heat treated. The carbon is what causes the oxidation. There are many categories of stainless. Most screws/bolts will be in one of the 300 series stainless steels. 304, 316, etc. 304 has no carbon, will not rust. All the others can have a very small amount.

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