Re: Trump special grand jury?
[Re: Gary Benson]
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What should worry everyone is the people are driving this have no desire to see justice but rather are using the idea of justice as a political tool to take out a perceived danger to their power. Dangerous stuff. As stated previously in this thread justice is ignored when it applies to them but are willing to use the pretext of it as a political tool. And again most Americans will tolerate because they believe the bias media and won't think for themselves. To sets of standards the left use.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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What should worry everyone .................... But, somehow it does not. It is blatantly clear that the "justice system" is being abused to the point that people are being prosecuted, or not, depending on which political position they support. I don't understand how anyone, regardless of their hatred for any individual, or lockstep support for their party, could think a process this corrupt could be good for our country.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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The goal is to intimidate all conservatives by showing that none are untouchable.
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Yes, and it will intimidate quite a few.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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What is the grand jury for Shady business dealings......shady tax stuff mostly, but also things like hush money paid to women he cheated on his wife with. ArticleThanks. This paragraph is the whole reason why..... The development signals that the Manhattan district attorney's office was moving toward seeking charges as a result of its two-year investigation, which included a lengthy legal battle to obtain Trump's tax records
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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What should worry everyone .................... But, somehow it does not. It is blatantly clear that the "justice system" is being abused to the point that people are being prosecuted, or not, depending on which political position they support. I don't understand how anyone, regardless of their hatred for any individual, or lockstep support for their party, could think a process this corrupt could be good for our country. It’s going to make the lawyer’s job easy, they’ll only have to ask one question. lol
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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If lying and cheating on the wife was criminal the people prosecuting him might all be in jail along with most of DC. LOL
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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What is the grand jury for Shady business dealings......shady tax stuff mostly, but also things like hush money paid to women he cheated on his wife with. ArticleJust what I expected, An unnamed source, Always been good enough for you. The big one was for paying hush money to women, not exactly wiping clean a govt server or govt emails, but should be worth a couple million tax payer dollars. SMH, I am begining to think you dont even know how dumb you sound.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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From what I read yesterday, the grand jury is looking into his business dealings. Maybe he is clean, maybe not. If Trump, or anyone, committed a crime he should be prosecuted. To some of us this is where the problem arose. We apparently missed the headlines about the rigorous prosecution and tough sentences handed out to ppl like Bill, Hillary, or Hunter Biden.
For some of us, we see it as a problem when it is not a crime unless I disagree with you politically. FYI I believe the Clinton Foundation to be a money laundering scheme for enemies of America and that Hunter Biden has harmed children and I'd love to see a grand jury view evidence of those crimesI understand what you are saying but notice I said "anyone." If the evidence shows that those people committed a crime, we should investigate and prosecute them. Trump supporters however cannot ethically scream about certain people, Clintons and Bidens for example, not being investigated and simultaneously scream that Trump is innocent and this investigation is just political payback--without seeing the evidence. Conservatives believe in the judicial system and let it work. Be ethically and intellectually consistent. If the evidence shows that Trump, his company(ies) or his people committed crimes, any or all of them should be prosecuted according to the evidence. If Trump is prosecuted and convicted, even the most avid Trump supporter should say good riddance to him and move on.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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I read it. The author must not have tried many cases if he thinks its a slam dunk for the Trump organization at trial--assuming the matter goes to trial. No jury trial is a slam dunk. The rest of the article is full of generalizations and I was underwhelmed by his arguments. And, he's flat wrong about officers of corporations not being prosecuted/guilty for the acts of the corporation. It happens. He's also wrong about individuals being safe from prosecution on tax crimes if an accountant prepared his/her taxes. He was wrong about more but those two examples struck me as most relevant. I'm not the prosecutor. I haven't seen the evidence and neither has the author. Maybe there is nothing to see here. Maybe there is. I do agree the grand jury is politically driven but these things happen when you get on the political radar.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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Thanks ! I thought he might be wrong on the statute of limitations argument especially where state taxes might be involved. But if something was questionable about the TTO taxes then one would think the IRS would have raised that issue by now. I saw that too. I don't know much about the SOL on taxes but the other two I pointed out are definitely errors. I know for a fact that the officers of my clients can be criminally liable for the acts of their companies--in certain situations. Like I said, who knows how this will play out? But for anyone to suggest Trump, his company or his people are innocent just because this is political or just because the Clintons were not prosecuted for whatever crime or reason is premature and wrong. This is why we have courts--if it gets that far. I certainly haven't convicted Trump, his company or people yet in my mind. I haven't seen the charge or the evidence.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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Trump supporters however cannot ethically scream about certain people, Clintons and Bidens for example, not being investigated and simultaneously scream that Trump is innocent and this investigation is just political payback--without seeing the evidence. Like I said, who knows how this will play out? But for anyone to suggest Trump, his company or his people are innocent just because this is political or just because the Clintons were not prosecuted for whatever crime or reason is premature and wrong. Maybe I missed it, but I did not read where anyone on this thread wrote that, or even insinuated that, Trump was innocent. Could you point that out for me? I did read several mentions that this is a politically motivated witchhunt which, in my opinion, is completely correct. It really only takes a slight awareness of the current political climate in a little bit of common sense to understand that.
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Re: Trump special grand jury?
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political persecution to ensure continued control of government by the socialists....been done often thru ought history.
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