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Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA #7273160
05/26/21 09:29 PM
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Anyone seen this or been following it? I'd post a link but that's above my skill set. I heard one rancher say that it is already happening in his area. The minority farmers or ranchers are getting their loans dismissed and are turning around and borrowing more $ to go buy more land or livestock. Some are saying that it might already be having an effect on some segments of the cattle markets despite profits bargains being extremely tight to nonexistent.

Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273170
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Same with restaurant owners, the Biden stimulus money is for minorities.

Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273173
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It got struck down, the racial part of it, by a unanimous SCOTUS ruling. But not before they had already doled out several billion.

Not just these two programs. Take a look at the the list of names for your local payroll program. I bet the names will skew heavily to one side.

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Well I guess its time to become a minority.



Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: warrior] #7273180
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Originally Posted by warrior
It got struck down, the racial part of it, by a unanimous SCOTUS ruling. But not before they had already doled out several billion.

Not just these two programs. Take a look at the the list of names for your local payroll program. I bet the names will skew heavily to one side.

If something can get struck down unanimously by the Supreme Court something is alot messed up. Goes to show you how screwed up the President and there agenda is. People better start taking heed of what's going on and start asking why. Bigger games maybe being played.

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Originally Posted by goldnut
Well I guess its time to become a minority.

That might be part of the plan

Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: warrior] #7273190
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Originally Posted by warrior
It got struck down, the racial part of it, by a unanimous SCOTUS ruling. But not before they had already doled out several billion.

Not just these two programs. Take a look at the the list of names for your local payroll program. I bet the names will skew heavily to one side.


Just 2 days ago it was in Federal court and judge said it was ok???

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Democrats rewarding their voter base.

Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273201
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Yeah I'm not seeing where the SCOTUS has struck it down yet

Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7273204
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Democrats rewarding their voter base.


Democrats keeping their voter base on the plantation..


Trump won....
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Court struck it down as racist but they already dished the money out so it doesnt matter.

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I really believe this will all backfire on Biden. Time will tell. The first 100 days were depressing. I think this post is not allowed but at 69 we will see if it slips through the cracks. Letís go TB. You canít beat hockey this time of year.

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The food supply for this country and a large part of the world is in the hands of mostly conservative minded people and I have thought for several years that the people who are seeking control and power in this country will have to change that and somehow must establish some way to take more control over the food supply. This might be first steps of breaking the established ag sector to usher in stronger government control.

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https://www.agriculture.com/news/bu...forgiveness-program-for-minority-farmers

Here is a little information. I have not read much on the court cases. I have read enough about the loan forgiveness programs to oppose it.

I farm. It is not my primary occupation but it is an important part of our overall finances and our farm is very important to our family. I did not inherit it. I bought my first tract 15 years ago and have been adding to it when I can. I bought all of the equipment and all of cows. I paid for all improvements. I tried one federal conservation program and said never again.

I don't fault who people take out federal loans, participate in government conservation programs and I can reconcile people taking subsidies although I don't like it. That reconciliation is somewhat inconsistent with my anti-welfare position--so if someone asks me to vote to end it all--I would.

This loan forgiveness program is straight up wrong. Call it what it is: raced based welfare, reparations and buying votes.


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Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273244
05/26/21 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
The food supply for this country and a large part of the world is in the hands of mostly conservative minded people and I have thought for several years that the people who are seeking control and power in this country will have to change that and somehow must establish some way to take more control over the food supply. This might be first steps of breaking the established ag sector to usher in stronger government control.


Interesting point. You might be right on the government control.


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Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273278
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Probably trying to offset the billions that rich white farmers get every year in subsidies. Not a fan of either.


"Can't we all just get along?" ---Rodney King (1991)
Re: Minority farmers loan forgiveness USDA [Re: Yes sir] #7273283
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I hope they got it struck down a program like that is somthing the Chinese could really use against us . I keep expecting any day to hear Al Sharpton complaining that most of that money went to chinese and mexican farmers . I don't know if That's the case but it sure wouldnt surprise me . I bet the Chinese immigrants took full advantage of this program.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Probably trying to offset the billions that rich white farmers get every year in subsidies. Not a fan of either.


I would be OK with getting rid of all of it.


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Great video. Long but the guy is very informed and knowledgeable on what he speaks. If you own land take the time to watch this video.

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