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Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7174710
02/08/21 11:49 PM
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The automobile industry was clearly headed toward electric vehicles before the elections. I think they see it as our future. Expect major improvements in batteries. Trucking is making plans, even electric railroad engines for yard work.

We will always need oil. So many products and industries rely on it and natural gas.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7174877
02/09/21 08:54 AM
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Even electric cars will still need petroleum based lubricants.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: forestman3] #7174879
02/09/21 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
We will be flying in cars like the jetsons before you know it.

Imagine the crashes...I cut see it.


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7174986
02/09/21 10:45 AM
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Going to sound like a bee hive in the crowded places.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7174995
02/09/21 10:53 AM
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Electric vehicles are not a replacement for internal combustion engines.
We don't have the power generation to charge them.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175016
02/09/21 11:12 AM
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How are the northern areas going to run all electric all the time.
Going to have to wear your snow gear to drive to work.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175184
02/09/21 01:18 PM
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Good to see peoples perspective I have never been a hoarder BUT i own a large metal barn with a cement floor that is not being utilized properrl. I honestly believe that making a plan and purhcasing a few vehicles sometime in the not do distant future will be a smart more for me and my boys. Mind you I am not doing this as my primary mode of transportation but as farm / hunting trucks I hope this never happensyt


If I put my wife inside a high fence will her rack get bigger ?
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175206
02/09/21 01:28 PM
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Has anyone ever asked these auto makers where the power is going to come from to flip the fleet to electric? Barely adequate as it is and below adequate on the west coast.

To flip the fleet, they would have to rebuild the entire electric grid and install about 10X the generator capacity we have now, and do it without coal or NG. That means about 10 new Nukes per state east of Mississippi.......and up and running in 15 years. I don't see that happening.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175221
02/09/21 01:37 PM
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You guys need a hobby. Some of the stories you come up with are hilarious to read.


Water is good for two things, Floating Ships and making Beer.
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175245
02/09/21 01:57 PM
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If I were to attempt this, I'd soak the underside with crankcase oil, get completely empty of fuel and set mouse traps all over along with poison.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7175271
02/09/21 02:39 PM
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So you can drive 400 miles then have to charge for 8 to 12 before you can drive again. gonna work really well for the trucking industry i'm tired of idiots with stupid plans like this


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Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: frank1969] #7275813
05/30/21 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by frank1969
How u going to run them the price of gas will be outa sight if we can even buy it


I live in the land of corn. Lots of fresh water too. I see a couple good things there. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7275820
05/30/21 07:19 AM
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LL what will you use for fuel to distill the the ethanol and grow the corn? except for sugar cane ethanol your living the same fantasy as the electric car folks. if we drain the entire gulf coast and plant it all to sugar cane, we can't grow anywhere near enough.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: danny clifton] #7275822
05/30/21 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
LL what will you use for fuel to distill the the ethanol and grow the corn? except for sugar cane ethanol your living the same fantasy as the electric car folks. if we drain the entire gulf coast and plant it all to sugar cane, we can't grow anywhere near enough.


You just worry about yourself. Corn is a fuel in itself.

They frequently multiply energy content by the number of pounds in a bushel (56 pounds) and then report an energy content of 448,000 to 476,000 BTUs per bushel of shelled corn. Figures as high as 10,000 BTUs per pound or 560,000 BTUs per bushel have been used in some analyses.


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7275829
05/30/21 07:42 AM
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I am worried about myself. people living in fantasy land dont do anybody any good


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: forestman3] #7275836
05/30/21 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
We will be flying in cars like the jetsons before you know it.



Maybe someone living in 90s said that...2021 we are learning to wash our hands, cover our mouths, and figure out what bathroom to use.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: LLtrapper] #7275838
05/30/21 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by danny clifton
LL what will you use for fuel to distill the the ethanol and grow the corn? except for sugar cane ethanol your living the same fantasy as the electric car folks. if we drain the entire gulf coast and plant it all to sugar cane, we can't grow anywhere near enough.


You just worry about yourself. Corn is a fuel in itself.

They frequently multiply energy content by the number of pounds in a bushel (56 pounds) and then report an energy content of 448,000 to 476,000 BTUs per bushel of shelled corn. Figures as high as 10,000 BTUs per pound or 560,000 BTUs per bushel have been used in some analyses.



Only so much land to grow so much corn besides other crops.

Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7275841
05/30/21 07:55 AM
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Buckmink have you ever been to IA? LLL


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Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: Cannon Ball] #7275845
05/30/21 07:57 AM
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Soybeans are good fuel as well. Look I do not like it anymore than anyone else. I just know biofuels are more practical than battery operated vehicles. You can run a truck on biodiesel. They do it here now. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Purhasing and Storing Gasoline Vehicles [Re: LLtrapper] #7275849
05/30/21 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Buckmink have you ever been to IA? LLL


I'm in ohio. Now using others like soybeans would work, gotta rotate crops like everyone knows.

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