Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 01:59 AM
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They won't have to take them, people will line up to willingly turn them in for a little money. Or to be entered in a lottery if you do. Hmmm, where have I heard that before??
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 08:37 AM
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I for one am not quite ready to get into that railroad car just yet.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 08:42 AM
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danny clifton
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Im doing everything I know to do in order to prevent that day
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Guns
[Re: Brian Mongeau]
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05/30/21 08:54 AM
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The news travels a heck of a lot faster now than Paul Revere's ride. There aren't enough LEOs to surprise everyone at once, or even willing to. Mass confiscations is never going to happen. This. They might surprise the first batch of gun owners which will likely be those with a CCP since the feds already know they are gun owners. The second raid, they'll walk into an ambush.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 10:29 AM
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danny clifton
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hey might surprise the first batch of gun owners which will likely be those with a CCP since the feds already know they are gun owners If you have purchased a firearm from a dealer after 1993 you are part of the gun owner registry. If you purchased a hunting license after your state went on line for such things your part of the gun owner registry. If you ever bought any hunting or gun related items on line you are part of the gun owner registry. If you ever used a check, debit card, or credit card at a gun store you are on the list. What is most likely IMO is more stuff will become NFA items. A bolt action scoped rifle will become a sniper rifle. A single shot shotgun will become a firearm capable of causing mass casualties with a single shot fired and so on. Then violators of these laws will be vilified. The law for owning an NFA firearm will be so restrictive no one but elites will be able to own a firearm. Any NFA firearm is not deemed protected by the 2nd amendment. The Supremes said that is constitutional back in the 1930's. Propaganda being spouted as I type is already making you out to be a radical. When people do pick up their deer rifle and grampas old quail gun to protect their right to be armed, they will be called terrorists. Under the patriot act, terrorists are not entitled to attorneys, habeas corpus, a jury, or anything else. It will get really really bad. I suspect leaders will be jailed in Guantanamo or some other hard to reach prison.
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Guns
[Re: HayDay]
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05/30/21 11:36 AM
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I still think the more likely scenario is someone hostile to 2A manages to gain control of the Vista Group and shuts them down. Then ban primer and powder imports. In less time than it took to fight the civil war, they will render all firearms useless.
You can keep your 2A rights and your guns.....but they won't do you any good. Will have to resort to slings, arrows and a Quackenbush or 2. You get your resupply out of the trunks of unattended cruisers, intercepted shipments, and those you had to protect yourself from. Also there are lots of people that keep more than a few thousand rounds for each gun in this country. Not everyone is comfortable having a box or two for deer hunting. I know several people that have 100k+ rounds for several calibers. I have always been jealous. They make a heck of a profit during every panic. Pays for their stash and the resupply when the panic relaxes. Better return then the markets and never going to be worth nothing.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 11:40 AM
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People are making this much more difficult than it is .
Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 11:43 AM
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danny clifton
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biden is already saying semi's need to be nfa firearms and further production banned. you do not have a right to own NFA firearms per the supremes
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Guns
[Re: Yes sir]
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05/30/21 12:32 PM
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I believe the USA along with Israel and to a degree Canada are only place,were the citizens still have more power than the government but we are racing to the tipping point were the power will shift and when it does happen in the USA there won't be anyone to stand up for personal freedoms in this world. It will just be the few elite rich and powerful people fighting for as much power as they can get. I think a lot of them at the top know it's coming and are fighting to be at the top when the smoke clears. I don't think you were necessarily making a direct comparison on guns but the right be bear arms does not exist in Israel. Sure, some are armed but there are massive restrictions.
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Re: Guns
[Re: HayDay]
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05/30/21 12:56 PM
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I still think the more likely scenario is someone hostile to 2A manages to gain control of the Vista Group and shuts them down. Then ban primer and powder imports. In less time than it took to fight the civil war, they will render all firearms useless.
You can keep your 2A rights and your guns.....but they won't do you any good. Will have to resort to slings, arrows and a Quackenbush or 2. Agree. I've been saying there's something fishy about the continued ammo shortage. Most say, " its your own fault if you don't have enough" which is beside the point.
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Re: Guns
[Re: Wanna Be]
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05/30/21 01:04 PM
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I believe they’ll hit the cities door to door. They have no rights as it is. Think of the whenever there’s a bomb or mass shooting where the suspect gets away...they go door to door searching without warrants and no one bats an eye. “Most” small town Sheriffs will not enforce the confiscation...they are elected and want to keep that job. [color:#FF0000][/color] What makes you think that
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Re: Guns
[Re: Snowpa]
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05/30/21 01:06 PM
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I believe they’ll hit the cities door to door. They have no rights as it is. Think of the whenever there’s a bomb or mass shooting where the suspect gets away...they go door to door searching without warrants and no one bats an eye. “Most” small town Sheriffs will not enforce the confiscation...they are elected and want to keep that job. [color:#FF0000][/color] What makes you think that Well, I figure most are like ours, and came out and SAID IT. Then again, we are in the South where even babies are given a gun on their first birthday.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 01:15 PM
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Small town sheriffs, or any sheriff has an oath to keep. They can deputize the whole county if they want to.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Guns
[Re: trapper les]
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05/30/21 01:28 PM
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Small town sheriffs, or any sheriff has an oath to keep. They can deputize the whole county if they want to. The oath is to uphold the constitution. Gun confiscation in any form is unconstitutional.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 01:34 PM
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danny clifton
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The oath is to uphold the constitution. Gun confiscation in any form is unconstitutional. The U.S. is full of politicians and voters that couldn't care less. The voters are ignorant and the politicians power mad. Like it or not that is a truth.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Guns
[Re: danny clifton]
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05/30/21 01:37 PM
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The oath is to uphold the constitution. Gun confiscation in any form is unconstitutional. The U.S. is full of politicians and voters that couldn't care less. The voters are ignorant and the politicians power mad. Like it or not that is a truth. Unfortunatrely, you are correct Danny
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Re: Guns
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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05/30/21 03:06 PM
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When they come to your door to take your guns Will you shoot them? They are not coming to your door. America is being destroyed and not a shot has been fired. They will do something that will make people hand their guns over voluntarily. Just like "the vaccine". There will be a couple of us that will take a different route.
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Re: Guns
[Re: grisseldog]
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05/30/21 03:40 PM
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Iv lived my life (61) I’ll go down fighting for my kids and grandkids if it comes to it. Lord forgive me. Same here grissledog. May as well get it over with once and for all instead of the constant snipping away at our freedom.
Let's go Brandon
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