Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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It’s really confusing with the changes going on and the real expectation of the businesses here, at Menards you better have a mask but I’ve been in other stores with signs saying you need a mask the nobody is wearing one not even the employees.
What really ticks me off is I see for profit businesses giving shots for free then the local “ nonprofit hospital “ try’s to tap $57 out of people without coverage if they can get away with it. I will never shop at menards again. Not becuse of the mask but becuse I had my boys under 10 with me. Parked in the back of the lot to fit my excursion. When I got to the door they were not letting anyone under 16 in. We walked back to the excursion and left. I bet they relaxed that now but they didn't want my money then they will never get any again.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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The loss of freedom works in different ways due to these faux vaccinations and does have an adverse effect on all of us. Walking through a Walmart the other day on the intercom they ask folks that haven't been vaccinated to please wear a mask while shopping. Perhaps this will go on forever? Airlines and many business now requiring a shot record to use their services or for employment. So much for a personal choice and America home of the free. Thought I read where a lot are rescinding that order also because OSHA came out and said if you do then you’ll be responsible for any adverse effects of the shot even though the manufacturers of the actual shots are not. Seems when it’s put out that way that the shots may not be the best course of action for the workforce.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Right here is the problem. https://torontosun.com/news/provinc...8xvPo-hqKQorKvc4gb8falGMiSagWfBh3WCAu2zAThis thing has been politicalized from day one. There are so many stories out there like this that its impossible for me to take the data the MSM spews seriously anymore. They have no clue how many people have covid and never did. I have based my opinion on things I have seen as an EMT and personally. A friend who manages an auto dealership got the shot a couple of weeks ago, and he has been very sick since. Like real sick. Combine that with what Ive seen on ambulance, and what Ive read, and I know its not for me. Wish everyone who gets it the best.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Menards by me says mask for non jabbers. No masks for the vaccinated. Sign says "following CDC guidelines. No one was checking papers though. I walked in mask free without any trouble.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Menards by me says mask for non jabbers. No masks for the vaccinated. Sign says "following CDC guidelines. No one was checking papers though. I walked in mask free without any trouble. I didn't even see that sign at Menards or maybe I chose to ignore it. Maskless the last few times and , like you said, no one was asking for any proof of the jab.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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If any business wants to know if I have been vaccinated before they allow me in without a mask, I will tell them truthfully that I have had my two vaccinations. ( Polio and Smallpox)
I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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It’s really confusing with the changes going on and the real expectation of the businesses here, at Menards you better have a mask but I’ve been in other stores with signs saying you need a mask the nobody is wearing one not even the employees.
What really ticks me off is I see for profit businesses giving shots for free then the local “ nonprofit hospital “ try’s to tap $57 out of people without coverage if they can get away with it. I heard threw the grapevine. The main reason Menards jumped so quick on the got to wear mask deal. Was that they have a hard enough time hiring and keeping workers. They wanted to stay open and operating keep what employee's they had working.. I don't recall hearing of any Menards stores being close during whole of 2020. Was same for KwikTrip Stores don't think was any them ever close. So pretty much come down to about keep making a dollar.. I think them lot them people might made record sales in 2020. Mac
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Those little posters are everywhere. Both for and against. I have had little formal education, so my decision is based on my personnel observations. I am convinced we have been lied to. The only question is to what extent.
Sure would be nice if we got accurate information so people could make better informed decisions.
Been a LOT of money thrown around. Way more than what was "given" to taxpayers. I'm thinking that where that money landed would be a good place to look for answers.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Since you asked...no way on Gods green Earth I’d get it. It’s NOT A VACCINE plain and simple, it’s nothing more than a best guess shot that I keep reading more and more bad things about. I’ve had Doctors tell me not to get it. I’ve read and even had Doctors tell me it actually weakens your immune system and those vaccinated are more susceptible to the virus and many other issues now more than ever. From what I’ve read and been told, your BEST defense is by getting the actual virus. A mild case (99.7% survival rate) is the best, hospitalization with ventilator not so much. There is no rhyme or reason with the virus either. A perfectly healthy 30+ year old gets his butt kicked by it and a 60+ year old smoker with heart problems never misses a day on the tractor.
Only thing that disproves your point is how the cases plummented after the vaccines started getting used. So it must be working ... they changed the case reporting guidance once the 'vaccine' came out to make it look it was saving everyone . . same way as the guidance previously was to mark any death that even remotely resembled covid as a covid death whether it actually was or not . . obviously drove the numbers way up
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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The loss of freedom works in different ways due to these faux vaccinations and does have an adverse effect on all of us. Walking through a Walmart the other day on the intercom they ask folks that haven't been vaccinated to please wear a mask while shopping. Perhaps this will go on forever? Airlines and many business now requiring a shot record to use their services or for employment. So much for a personal choice and America home of the free. Home of the free ! Heck yea. FREE health care FREE child care FREE wages FREE vaccines When BOBO and the clown crew get done won't be any need for anyone to work, worry, or sweat!!!
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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nurses here were laid off
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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i trust what i can see not what my tv says
son was in the hospital here with diverticulitis. place was empty
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Danny thank you for proving my point in the last post . ( events to prove ones point) Nurses got laid of here also but it was surgical nurses and family practice nurses as those services were stopped during the height of the hospitalizations. BUT once again didn't start this to "prove anyone's believe wrong or right. Just started it to tell of "my" experience.
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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The hospitals full of chinese flu patients were receiving them from a large area. I know that KC hospitals were getting patients from over a hundred miles away. So it looked way worse than it was, at those hospitals. ALL the flu victims put into just a few hospitals. The majority of hospitals were all but shut down and medical people laid off.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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The hospitals full of chinese flu patients were receiving them from a large area. I know that KC hospitals were getting patients from over a hundred miles away. So it looked way worse than it was, at those hospitals. ALL the flu victims put into just a few hospitals. The majority of hospitals were all but shut down and medical people laid off. Ok ask yourself WHY were they getting patients from 100 miles away? BECAUSE LOCAL hospitals were FULL !!!!!!!
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Re: Covid vac get second shot or not?
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Could be the idea is it’s easier to set up a central specialized hospital then hundreds of separate ones to keep the use of limited resources available to meet the needs easier.
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