Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
[Re: drasselt]
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They already attacked us -- ever hear of this little thing called Covid 19? Biological warfare and they landed a heck of a blow! Also computer chip and bunch of commodity shortages!!
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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They already attacked us -- ever hear of this little thing called Covid 19? Biological warfare and they landed a heck of a blow! Also computer chip and bunch of commodity shortages!! The shortages we did to ourselves out of greed, corruption, and lack of thinking ahead. It was not done to us.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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We are so dependent on china it is sickening.....national security issues like the large majority of meds are made in china....they unleashed the vid on the world to get rid of Trump...now their boy is in the white house.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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one thing I can pretty much figure , that would likely happen,,,,,,,,,,,would be china allied with n.korea, iran and Russia. axis powers 2.0 That's how I see it too.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Nobody can win a war against a nuclear super power. The looser is going to press that button in the end and its all over for everyone. MAD
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Look at the last year. They could take over this country with a virus, a power outage and a sharp stick. Most of these people today would just give up.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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K52, we couldn't beat them in Vietnam because we had one president (LBJ) who had our soldiers fighting with one hand tied behind their back. Then another president (Nixon) who sounded tough when it came to bombing the north with his threats. When the NVA tested his resolve, he backed down. In the end, Nixon lost the war for us. I remember all of that, don't forget TET was a great defeat for the enemy but even back then the MSM lied to the people and turned it into a defeat for us. I'll never figure out why everyone thought Walter Cronkite was so great, he was just another mouthpiece like Hanoi Jane. Traitors to our country. Our military had them beat, the politicians lost the war.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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They already attacked us -- ever hear of this little thing called Covid 19? Biological warfare and they landed a heck of a blow! Also computer chip and bunch of commodity shortages!! There was an article in the Wall Street Journal last fall regarding WALMART presiding over the largest transition of wealth between two nations in the history of the world. U.S. dollars going to China from Walmart amount to almost 1/2 trillion per year. More interesting is that China produces between 75 and 80% of all antibiotics and possibly the same percentage of all medications consumed in North America. I'm no union guy but this is a big reason to buy American, as well as better quality most of the time. We probably need to get our butts in gear developing and improving internet security software as well. That may be the crux of how the next "war" is fought.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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When Trump was in office I do not believe China would have tried anything simply because they feared what he just may do. Now there is no fear of Biden. He is one of their biggest proxies. Lots of lefties hated Trump because he was unpredictable. The CCP was the same way. That is why they both collaborated to steal the last election. LLL
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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China doesn't have to try anything, they can wait for us to develop new technology then just steal it like they do every thing else. Now our meat supplier has been hacked, im sure that's Russia too. We are a sitting duck right not, no telling what is going to be done to us while our fearless leader takes stair climbing lesson's.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Nobody can win a war against a nuclear super power. The looser is going to press that button in the end and its all over for everyone. MAD I dont believe that crap for 1 minute. We strike first and hard with everything we got and its all over! Turn that whole place into a blackhole! I dont even like chinese food! LoL!
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Below is a link to a site that lists the national debt of nations as a percentage of GDP. There are interesting facts and data to me. Many highly socialistic nations do not carry large national debts. Russia has very low national debt so low debt is not always highly correlated to high income or better life standards. China carries much less debt then we do as a percentage of GDP. Many smaller nations also do not have the population numbers to create high GDPs and thus low debt is probably wise and a necessity. Bryce https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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I dont even like chinese food! LoL! Dude one plate of Zhao's Mongolian Beef and you'd be an instant convert. Unfortunately Joe's gone and never found any to compare since!
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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.....lefties hated Trump because he was unpredictable. The CCP was the same way. That is why they both collaborated to steal the last election. LLL I disagree. Trump was kicking their commie butts all over the map straightening out the crummy trade arrangements and he was just getting started. They wanted him out because he was perfectly predictable.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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When China runs out of space and resources, they will create an incident, then go north and take Mongolia and Siberia, saying Mongolia and Russia started it. Russia and China will go at it way before China and the US. Watching Russia and China duke it out will be like watching a kindergarten fight. Hardly a kindergarten fight. They both have very well trained militaries that a wise person should give due respect and credence. Mongolia has been a puppet/pawn of Russia and to a lesser extent China for the last 150 years to serve as a buffer so the two nations dont accidentally start a major and very costly war with each other. The US should continue to strive to make China reliant on us while at thr same time ally with Russia to balance Euro and Chinese power/influence.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Unfortuately China, Russia, and Iran are already aligned.In the case of China and Russia for a very long time against the west.
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Quilted jackets gentlemen, quilted jackets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YsYYywYFJo&list=PL-bnkHwg69YXYN3YEuoyqaEYxzZSewLq8&index=11There is no good war. Ever. Needed, necessary, inevitable or whatever doesn’t equal good. Be ready, strike hard and fast, destroy your enemy and go home to learn the lessons, there’ll be a lot of them. Owl
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Re: war with china,,,,,grim outcome
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Unfortuately China, Russia, and Iran are already aligned.In the case of China and Russia for a very long time against the west. Not at all. They keep a very paranoid eye on each other.. Like two drug dealers making an agreement.... Its only for thier good and will wipe the other one away as soon as its not convenient.
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