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New Fur Auction? #7277541
06/01/21 08:21 PM
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yotetrapper30 Offline OP
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Has anyone heard anything about this? I just saw this on Facebook.

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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277551
06/01/21 08:25 PM
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Good Idea.
More options for trappers the better.
Good timing too,IMO.

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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277552
06/01/21 08:28 PM
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1st I have heard, I am listening. Good luck to them. Hope they keep everyone posted.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: backroadsarcher] #7277554
06/01/21 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
1st I have heard, I am listening. Good luck to them. Hope they keep everyone posted.

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Hope they come to Canada too if it all works out

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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277555
06/01/21 08:29 PM
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Quite a big announcement to have typos. I'm sure with their eye towards quality and detail, they'll be real successful.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277568
06/01/21 08:42 PM
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I may drive up to Iowa if they post a date and time. Not that far for me. I have questions. COOP says to me investors needed.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277572
06/01/21 08:45 PM
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Wish them the best and to the grammar teacher at least they are trying something.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: rex123] #7277611
06/01/21 09:30 PM
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caveat emptor

Let the buyer beware of this scheme based
on who is making the pitch.

Sounds like another NAFA
WFSC boondoggle
in the making.

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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277647
06/01/21 09:58 PM
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Very good, go gett'um Dale


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277692
06/01/21 10:43 PM
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Mighty ambitious undertaking.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277714
06/01/21 11:13 PM
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And what does It cost to be a MEMBER? And who are the others who are Involved In this venture?


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277726
06/01/21 11:32 PM
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Sounds good on paper. However, not so sure it is feasible endeavor. It has been tried before. Oregon Territorial Council on Fur, Inc. (OTC) in 1973.
Another group in Colorado in the 1980s (canít remeber the person name).

Most trappers are too independent people to take part in such a plan.

I wish them good luck.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: The Beav] #7277733
06/01/21 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
And what does It cost to be a MEMBER? And who are the others who are Involved In this venture?


Those are some of my questions as well. Sure more will come to light after the meeting at the NTA.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: wissmiss] #7277747
06/02/21 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Sounds good on paper. However, not so sure it is feasible endeavor. It has been tried before. Oregon Territorial Council on Fur, Inc. (OTC) in 1973.
Another group in Colorado in the 1980s (canít remeber the person name).

Most trappers are too independent people to take part in such a plan.

I wish them good luck.

Rocky Mtn Fur Exchange? I think I still have a catalog from one of their sales in Denver that I dropped in on, maybe some photos too.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277765
06/02/21 01:12 AM
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I see a need and opportunity. Be nice to have some experienced personnel on board. Not sure that focusing on a Groeny monopoly is the proper route. And you donít want to compete with FHA? If I were starting an auction I would want every trapper I could get on board. Doable with a budget.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277814
06/02/21 07:06 AM
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I am not sure what part Dale would play. I am not aware of any auction experience he has. I might look into it. He said something about this on facebook the other day during a conversation about the failure of NAFA and the failures of the Canadian government to let anyone into the country. LLL


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7277890
06/02/21 08:48 AM
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dont care how many outlets there is for fur if there isnt a want for it more than can be supplied it isnt going to change as long as they get all they want its going to be cheap keep trapping and selling cheap its worked several years now and they like cheap fur

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: Joe1] #7277989
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The unwant was created by gross oversupply. The ranch industry produced several fold over reasonable levels. It will be interesting to see if things change as the pipeline is flushed out.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278018
06/02/21 11:16 AM
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More outlets for selling is good for harvesters no doubt !!

Maintaining control of harvest for top dollars has always been a conglomerates down fall, due to the harvesters thinking they can do better by just keep on hauling in fur.

If there is a demand for fur, which is way low and has been for a long time, prices stay up, ranch fur controls most of that, control demand you can control the price of fur. Ranch fur has taken a serious hit lately with the covid, could make some short term investors glitzy with ambition in my view.

Harvesters need to get together and control what's being sent to sell, instead of just sending in everything cause they wish a return of something. Do this and you might cause some stability in need for fur.

However most need to realize that regular use of fur is seriously limited to certain areas and cost's for this type will never be high as most who use it cannot afford that cost, cheap fur goes here, but not like it used to, due to petroleum products substituting better insulating products for cheaper cost which last longer.

Maybe when the world goes totally green again fur will comeback in vogue and real need, with out oil there are no synthetics to take it's place !


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278036
06/02/21 11:59 AM
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There are some logistic concerns that are not anything related to trapping or trappers being too independent. If there is a good market outlet independent trappers will find it and use it. The logistics of locating the proper place for buyers to attend and stay, means hotels, activities, airports etc. Also getting commitments from foreign buyers to attend and make additional trips to and from the US needs to be dealt with and or coordinating with other auctions to minimize travel expenses. Also providing free pickup sounds great but collecting fur from a country our size and getting it to a central location with storage is not a low cost operation and some one will cover those costs and fees. Working on or with lower commissions sounds very good for sellers and buyers but there really needs to be a critical mass of revenue to keep doors open and the site running.
The fur going to this possible new site will not be any better or more valuable then fur going to FHA, GFW, a local buyer or association auction so finding ways to attract the fur and manage the enterprise and have higher returns for sellers will take some very, very high level business management, which will not be low cost in this modern area.
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