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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7266169
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Looking good there Pete!


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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7266197
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after we laid this panel we started making a tape dam to keep the foam out of the middle so we can pull more wires later if needed. the orange string is still pulling back and forth freely , so even though we shouldn't need any more wiring right now it is still an option to pull new wires later

the nav lights and trolling motor were the only 2 wires we are adding Red LED lights inside the boat down near the floor for night fishing those wires were also laid as well as a pull string to add any more later

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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267017
05/18/21 03:54 PM
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Looks real good GCP!
Did the amount of foam in the pic expand to fill that whole compartment?

Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: Trapset] #7267028
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Originally Posted by Trapset
Looks real good GCP!
Did the amount of foam in the pic expand to fill that whole compartment?



in a couple more minutes yes it was filling all

each cavity was measured to find the cubic volume of the cavity

2 gallons or 256 ounces of combined part A and part B expands to 8 cubic feet 8/256 = .03 cubic feet per ounce

if a cavity was 1.3 cubic feet 1.3/0.03= 43.3 ounces of foam I rounded that up to 44 since I had a little space for it to go too beyond what I measured and pour 22 oz of part A in both containers.

then I pour to 44 in the first container with part B and my son would grab that and start mixing as he walked to the far side of the boat as he was doing that I was pouring part B in the second mixing tub and mixing and walking to the near side of the boat.

about 45 seconds of mixing and it expanded right out of the cup and start pouring

on the second pour we made a tape wall to keep the foam from running to the middle as much

my cup was about 20 seconds behind his in expanding because that was about how long it took to pour then start mixing


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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267037
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So when the compartment under the floor is filled with foam, does rain and splash just stay on top side and drain from there or do you leave a space around drain plug for water to drop down to plug in rear?

Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267045
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here is a picture of the old foam when we were taking the floor out

the port and starboard cavities are filled leaving a channel down the middle for wiring and water to drain

I also did not pour any foam beyond the last stern rib and that last rib and beyond was not in my calculation for the volume of that pour to provide for better drainage you can see where the plug is.

rain or splash or if I take the hose to it while tipped up it can still drain out the drain plug


the foam on the old floor went nearly to the back but came out attached to the plywood of the last floor panel

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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267061
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Is that a smoker craft?

Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: Trapset] #7267075
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Originally Posted by Trapset
Is that a smoker craft?



North Woods which are manufacturer by smoker craft


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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267160
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I've got a 14' North Woods and used to have a Smoker Craft. No wonder it looks familiar. We call the North Woods "The Porn Star" be cause it sounds like a porn stars stage name.
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I redid a 1969 Starcraft 18' a few years ago, transom and all. I used a combination of Gator aid bottles filled with foam and pink board for flotation. I didn't realize they made mix and pour. Really like the finished boat though. Just not sure if it will float when full or not. Hope I never find out. eek

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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: Law Dog] #7267226
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Try automotive paints they are nuts what they want for them.



Tell me about it.....175.00 per PINT


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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267414
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total boat 2 part expanding polyurethane foam https://www.amazon.com/TotalBoat-Urethane-Density-Flotation-Insulation/dp/B01AAP3G9Q

I ordered it from amazon , but Jamestown has the same thing https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/product/product-detail/2198


the nice part is the foam becomes structural allowing the floor to be 1/2 inch , the resin coating of the boards also stiffen , I thought about fiber glassing the boards but decided I didn't need the extra cost and time


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Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7267611
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Thanks for the links.

I used 2 part epoxy on both sides of the plywood and noticed it stiffened them up quite a bit. Would have loved to use expand foam under for support. I riveted the floor on so not an easy proposition to foam it now. I have spread foamed several metal buildings and it sure stiffens the metal up too.

Re: and you thought Plywood was expensive [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7278401
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boat is finished took it for testing on the river Monday finished up the wiring and bearings tonight

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the traction paint was added after this photo the floor is more of a matte finish now , and about 40grit it is some aggressive traction

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