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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: bblwi] #7278225
06/02/21 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
There are some logistic concerns that are not anything related to trapping or trappers being too independent. If there is a good market outlet independent trappers will find it and use it. The logistics of locating the proper place for buyers to attend and stay, means hotels, activities, airports etc. Also getting commitments from foreign buyers to attend and make additional trips to and from the US needs to be dealt with and or coordinating with other auctions to minimize travel expenses. Also providing free pickup sounds great but collecting fur from a country our size and getting it to a central location with storage is not a low cost operation and some one will cover those costs and fees. Working on or with lower commissions sounds very good for sellers and buyers but there really needs to be a critical mass of revenue to keep doors open and the site running.
The fur going to this possible new site will not be any better or more valuable then fur going to FHA, GFW, a local buyer or association auction so finding ways to attract the fur and manage the enterprise and have higher returns for sellers will take some very, very high level business management, which will not be low cost in this modern area.
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Your not wrong, I've been talking to Dale about this for a brief period of time, definitely well aware of the many obstacles ans struggles there will be. He's simply trying to give ideas, and gain some interest. I know he as well as many including myself, would love to see another place to sell fur. It seems like there is only a fraction of the buyers there once was, with FHA locked down for who knows how long, it would be nice to see where the markets actually are with active bidding to show level of demand. With only one larger buyer around, a monopoly is almost here whether we like it or not, which is not good for any of us.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: wissmiss] #7278237
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Sounds good on paper. However, not so sure it is feasible endeavor. It has been tried before. Oregon Territorial Council on Fur, Inc. (OTC) in 1973.
Another group in Colorado in the 1980s (can’t remeber the person name).

Most trappers are too independent people to take part in such a plan.

I wish them good luck.

Nancy, I'll jog your memory with this. The Rocky Mountain Fur Exchange was started by Leon Vanek and Craig Swick, this auction was the one based in Denver Co. in the 1980's.

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278243
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Thanks for the memory jog. Those are the names I couldn’t think of. Whatever became of them?


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278246
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NAFA ran a monopoly for decades and no one blinked or cared.

I don't know who is behind all this new venture BUT if a few i know are involved in it id not bet against it.

Logic tells me it won't work for a multitude of reason's with the biggest being, THERE'S NO DEMAND FOR FUR!

Have to have a product that someone wants in order to sell it. That may all change in the next few years and if so
if this is in place ahead of time it could reap the rewards for a market on it's way back up.

As has been the case in our whole history though dealing with fur is a gamble and always will be.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278384
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Seriously, if there was any demand no one would have to look too far for a ready outlet.


You suppose typewriter salesmen figure a domestic auction might solve their problems?

Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278408
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It would be better if international buyers could get to an international auction. Lack of ranch fur will surly help. I want to hear what will be said


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278543
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Remember back when trappers accused NAFA agents of switching pelts? The first trapper that sends In all of his Top of the line prime coon hides and they all of a sudden become Sec 3 heads will roll.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: The Beav] #7278645
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Remember back when trappers accused NAFA agents of switching pelts? The first trapper that sends In all of his Top of the line prime coon hides and they all of a sudden become Sec 3 heads will roll.

It is still happening. Most trappers can tell a top lot from something that should have made the ditch rather than skin, but not all trappers can. Some of the stuff I have seen is beyond belief. For some reason the most only catch good fur, at least in their eyes. It has to be someone else's fault.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278961
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Does anyone know if Dale Billingsley is a trapperman member? LLL


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7278970
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I think he was a long time ago.like many years ago.


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Re: New Fur Auction? [Re: wissmiss] #7279042
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think he was a long time ago.like many years ago.


Yes he was.

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7278968/dale-billingsley#Post7278968


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