Christians: Do good works matter?
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On another thread Loosegoose posted, "Christ is king, salvation comes through faith and not works, and we can all agree on that." I didn't want to derail that thread, so am starting this one.
Is LG right? I think not. I'm now an agnostic, but was raised in the Roman Catholic Church, and that's not what the Church teaches. Good works do count (but not without faith).
The salvation-through-faith-alone belief is a license to do anything. You can do anything at all, if you believe Christ died for your sins 2000 years ago.
I'm curious how many individuals believe in faith alone. Do you ignore good works? If not, what role do you believe good works in this life will have on your afterlife?
Jim
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Can you not even spell Christians right....hey where's them checks your supposed to be giving out? You're right, I made a mistake. Thanks for the free spell check. Jim
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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James, read John 3:16. All you have to do is TRULY believe. Good works make you a better person.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Yes sir
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Faith alone provides salvation. That's what the Bible teaches as I understand it. Works are the product of a heart that is seeking God's path for their life. I believe there will be an account for what we did with the blessing we received in Heaven. A person who sins intentionally and thinks they are saved because they believe they have accepted the saving grace of Jesus has only superficially accepted Jesus or in other words their rebirth isn't sincere.
In other words good works are a byproduct of salvation. Kind of like if your a trapper your truck smells like skunk not if your truck smells like a skunk your a trapper.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Good response, Yes sir. My son tells me much the same thing. If you've truly accepted Jesus, you try to walk in His path. (My words.)
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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I don't follow that, Posco. We have to await the Second Coming to do good works?
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Yes sir
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Good response, Yes sir. My son tells me much the same thing. If you've truly accepted Jesus, you try to walk in His path. (My words.)
Jim Your words work for me. I'm a sinner by nature (and a pretty good one part of my life) still struggle with the same temptations but the closer I walk with the Holy Spirit the uglier those sins look to me. But the worldly me is still there if I don't walk close with my Savior regularly.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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I don't follow that, Posco. We have to await the Second Coming to do good works?
Jim I'm saying works have no bearing on being saved, it's quite the opposite. Human nature tends to strive to merit salvation, we want to bring something to present before God to justify ourselves. God will have none of that.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Yes sir
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on another note...what happens to Hindus who don't believe in reincarnation? Same thing that happens to the one that believe in it.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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The salvation-through-faith-alone belief is a license to do anything. You can do anything at all, if you believe Christ died for your sins 2000 years ago.
the corollary that you can "earn" your way to heaven by your works is absolutely NOT true, according to MANY references in the Bible.
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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So good works accomplish nothing for your immortal soul?
Jim
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Re: Cristians: Do good works matter?
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Good works to the faithful Are just normal things that need done And we do them without a big fanfare Just normal like
You should try it James Nice demonstration of Christian humility. Jim
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