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why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? #7279692
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We didn't do anything to them!

Why did they attack us?


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279695
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We were friends with China. They hated each other.


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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279697
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seems like a urine-poor excuse to attack someone...


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279701
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U.S was actively supporting their enemies (china,u.s.s.r) and cut off oil and rubber supplies to Japan

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279704
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so, instead of using diplomatic measures, they unilaterally attacked...


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279707
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they wanted the entire south pacific to themselves , we stood in a defensive position , I think they wanted Hawaii also

they thought they could take out entire pacific fleet


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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279709
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seems like an unreasonable response.


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279717
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Japan was expansionist trying to extend control over Asia so they tried to knock out the pacific fleet. Pearl Harbor wasnt the only site attacked, its just the only actual US State that was attacked as other territories and bases were attacked as well. There were negotiations going on at the time, Japan formally didnt declare war until after the attack. The rest of the axis powers declared war on the US also shortly after.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279721
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We actually did restrict trade with the japs.....if they would have caught the carriers in Pearl it would have been a very bad thing...worse than it was by far.

We turned the tide @ Midway thanks to very brave air crews.....they gave their lives to turn the tide of the war. May God bless them all....


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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279722
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As an Island Nation, they needed to control raw materials like oil. Just as the Nazi came to power in Europe, Japan became aggressive toward China and other Asian nations. The US imposed an embargo which backed them into a corner. Their emperor was all powerful and the people and military followed him blindly. Their military had ramped up the Navy but under grossly estimated the industrial might of the US.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279739
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We had already cut off most of their oil in opposition to their occupation of China. They needed the oil from the Dutch East Indies. Being an island nation they were woefully short on resources that were available in the East Indies as well. Problem, the US Asiatic Fleet in the Philippines stood in the way as did our line of supply at Wake and Midway back to Pearl.
They could not move against Java and Borneo with America's navy on their flanks. They were faced with running out of oil and resources while bogged down in China, and they knew it, or go for the whole shooting match. But if they went all in they had but one shot to take out the US Navy all at once and best case force a negotiated draw in the pacific or deliver a fait accompli when they controlled the East Indies and sat across the sea routes in the pacific.
Yamamoto knew this was a foolhardy idea having been educated in the US but as a loyal citizen he executed his orders to the very best of his ability.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279746
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The goal at Pearl was to catch the entire US Pacific Fleet at anchor and destroy it in full. They very nearly did just that were the aircraft carriers not already at sea reinforcing wake or enroute from California.
The smaller fleet in the Philippines did not include any carriers or battleships and had to evacuate to Australia and we lost quite a few in the process.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279749
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The barbaric, mass murdering japs were not punished enough..... japland should have been taken into the USA...period. No more japan, so sorry.


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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279767
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The us was starving Japan from raw products not just oil but rubber and other materials meant for the war machine. Japan was also trying to be a world global power and wanted to branch out much like its American, French, British, German, Italian counterparts. All these countries and many more where colonizing other countries and lands for raw materials. Think British empire during colonization. They owned half the world. What we did first is what Japan was trying to do. Two biggest kids in the sandbox gona be a fight at some point. It’s very simular to what China is trying to do right now. There might just be another fight coming in that same sandbox soon enough. China wants to make a point of taking Taiwan, it absolutely was a part of China before the communists took over. They very much want it back. If they could pull it off they can say to the world “we are a super power” and no one would doubt it.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279784
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Warrior and Lots of Mink have it right. Yamamoto knew what he was getting into.

SniperB irrelevant to the question at hand but Hawaii became a state in 1959.

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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279787
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Japanese people, like the Jews, think they are special. I have no doubt that most modern Japanese don't see a problem with the atrocity's committed in WWII . It was a mistake not hanging Japanese war criminals, including their emperor , the way NAZI's were hung. They were being denied trade due to their treatment of the Chinese and Koreans .

The decision to nuke them was a good one. They earned that response.


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Japanese people, like the Jews, think they are special. I have no doubt that most modern Japanese don't see a problem with the atrocity's committed in WWII . It was a mistake not hanging Japanese war criminals, including their emperor , the way NAZI's were hung. They were being denied trade due to their treatment of the Chinese and Koreans .

The decision to nuke them was a good one. They earned that response.


X2, most Japanese war criminals were never prosecuted. I had a neighbor who was a survivor of the Bataan Death March and those Japanese soilders should have been hung.

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I have a couple foreign exchange students from each country over the years. It is amazing how much they hate each other! Japan and Korea.

Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: danny clifton] #7279867
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Japanese people, like the Jews, think they are special. I have no doubt that most modern Japanese don't see a problem with the atrocity's committed in WWII . It was a mistake not hanging Japanese war criminals, including their emperor , the way NAZI's were hung. They were being denied trade due to their treatment of the Chinese and Koreans .

The decision to nuke them was a good one. They earned that response.

Well when You're listed in the Bible as God's own ....You kind of Are special.


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Re: why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor? [Re: white marlin] #7279899
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330 I'd laugh except I know you think all those fairy tales are real.


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