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Heavy move?? #7280892
06/06/21 06:38 PM
06/06/21 06:38 PM
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wisconsin, manitowoc
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Looking at possibly acquiring a heavy safe.(2500# give or take)
I have a dump trailer capable of hauling, but I'm brainstorming ideas for loading.
Safe is 1900's era ruffly 2'x2' 3.5' tall, sitting on metal wheels.

Ideally I could set the ramps and use a chain hoist to pull it up and in likely by myself or with only 1 other guy. My concern is my ramps are only 4' and I don't know what kind of angle I will get if I would go this route. I'm guessing the trailer is about 16" high, it will probably squat 4" as the weight loads up.

I will be going to inspect it this week, and to scope out the location and formulate a plan if I were to buy it.
It is on concrete in a garage, so as far as I know now getting it up into the trailer is the only vertical challenge

In the mean time anyone got any "redneck" techniques I could consider.
Any rental gear anyone might know of that is more portable than a forklift.

IM WELL AWARE OF THE SAFETY FACTOR, HUMAN SAFETY WILL NOT BE IGNORED TO ACOMPLISH THIS.
I KNOW THERE ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN BE HIRED TO DO THIS.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280894
06/06/21 06:49 PM
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Wyoming County Pa.
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We used a car wrecker to move ours.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280896
06/06/21 06:51 PM
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Lawrence county Indiana
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You can raise the bed to improve your angle until you get it started in the trailer.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280903
06/06/21 07:02 PM
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You can roll the safe to the edge of the trailer and lift it with a floor jack and push the safe on it's side. Run a strap from the tongue of the trailer back to the safe to help tip/control it. I would use cardboard or something to keep from scratching it.

Warning - the Red Green show get there ideas from me

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280913
06/06/21 07:14 PM
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7mtns of CENTRAL PA
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Have a friend with a rollback car hauler???


NRALIFER,PRPA LIFER,HUNTER,FURTAKER
Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280935
06/06/21 07:54 PM
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Assuming there is somewhere to put a comalong on the front of the dump trailer, preferably high but the D rings in front will work, just run a chain through them and put the comalong in the middle of them. Put the ramps down, tilt the trailer up, lay plywood (or whatever wood you have) over the ramps, put a stout rope or strap around the safe and just winch it in. You may need a pry bar to get the lip of the safe over the edge of the plywood but it should ride up pretty smoothly. We used to load alot of logs this way.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280936
06/06/21 07:54 PM
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The Hill Country of Texas
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A tractor with a boom and bucket is my go to for heavy items. Works good for butcherin too


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Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7280995
06/06/21 09:31 PM
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Skid steer

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281018
06/06/21 10:00 PM
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See if you can rent a drop deck trailer from the local rental place. Kind of trailer they usually haul those scissor/man lifts with.

Deck will drop flat on the ground and make moving the safe a whole lot easier.

I know you have a dump trailer but I think renting a drop deck would be money well spent

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281023
06/06/21 10:07 PM
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Skidsteer with trailer, quick fast and in a hurry plus its safe.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: Hornady Reloader] #7281027
06/06/21 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hornady Reloader
We used a car wrecker to move ours.


Tow truck services will move heavy items, that they can easily access, like the safe, for the same price as a normal tow usually.

Keith

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281046
06/06/21 10:57 PM
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wisconsin, manitowoc
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Thanks guys,
Doners plan is pretty much the same idea I was picturing.
Dad only has a 25hp tractor, so that ain't gonna lift it. I don't think any skidsteer I could rent around here is gonna have the lift capacity either.
There is a family tow company in town im gonna talk to see if they would as a back up. I'm sure the rollback with a winch would work pretty slick.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281063
06/06/21 11:35 PM
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Just get enough men to help you pick it up to set it up there

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: grisseldog] #7281109
06/07/21 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by grisseldog
Just get enough men to help you pick it up to set it up there


Number of strong backs = numbers of of cases of cold beer always works.
grin

Been there , done that. Cold beer is a good motivator.


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Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281112
06/07/21 03:21 AM
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The Hill Country of Texas
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After reading others post count me as a skid steer vote. They can be rented for small amounts, are easy to run, and do the work of 25 to 3i men each day.

All of the fencing crews that used to have a JD 4020 show up with a bobcat anymore.


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Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281129
06/07/21 05:38 AM
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Make some rollers out of 4 inch pvc pipe and lay it on the side, with a helper, you should e good to go.

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281135
06/07/21 06:08 AM
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I've been in on several safe moving jobs. One we had in a 2 story 120 year old building. No way was we going to take down those rickety steps. We cribbed up and got it up to the window sill and had a crane take it out the upstairs window. How they ever got it up there without someone getting killed in the process is beyond me. But they built the pyramids without any cranes, lol.

Another time we bought a 100 ton press. We went to get it on a holiday and no one was was available with any kind of loader. It was a long way from home and didn't want to make the drive again. The guy did have a set of rollers and we come a longed it to the door.He also had bunch of 4x4's and we cribbed it up even with the trailer and flipped it over on a bunch of old tires.

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Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281147
06/07/21 06:48 AM
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see if you can dig a hole for your tires on the trailer to go into so you have less of a angle

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281183
06/07/21 08:04 AM
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Not Fun! Been there did that! We took a old safe out of a jewelry story when it closed. My guess was 3ft x 6ftx16" on wheels. We borrowed a skidloader and a flatbed from a friend to haul it. We got it out of the story and on to the sidewalk when we discovered the skid wouldn't lift it. I guess those old ones are filled with concrete for fire proofing. We had to go and rent the biggest skid from a farm supply implement. Went back loaded it up and then hauled it through town to the final resting place. It was only later on we discovered that the door of the safe had a container of tear gas in behind the lock in case anyone tried messing with it. FYI be careful those old ones suck and are full of surprises!

Re: Heavy move?? [Re: mutt] #7281189
06/07/21 08:13 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Pulleys are your friend and they are cheaper than tow trucks and skid steers.


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