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Cash is still illegal #7282738
06/09/21 09:50 PM
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Looks like cash is still illegal also. Any chance a bill or two had been used as a coke or meth straw? by someone else? No charges filed but L.E. steals the money. looks to me like the thieves are the only ones there is enough evidence to convict.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drug-sniffing-dog-kansas-city-173208173.html


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282743
06/09/21 09:53 PM
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P.S. I have seen grand nite champion coon dogs (yes plural) tree possums, slick tree and chase deer. Dont tell me a dog is anything more than just a dog.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282746
06/09/21 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
P.S. I have seen grand nite champion coon dogs (yes plural) tree possums, slick tree and chase deer. Dont tell me a dog is anything more than just a dog.


Yup, I'm amazed at a hounds ability and seen some amazing things but every one of them are capable of brain farts.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282752
06/09/21 10:01 PM
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Danny, you are correct. I had them drug sniffing dogs all over my truck in the high school parking lot once. I had been gigging carp and had eggs and scales all over the bed of my truck which set them dogs off. They called me out of class to let the dogs search inside my truck. I thought it was fun getting out of class at the time, but know never to trust them dogs now.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282754
06/09/21 10:03 PM
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Civil asset forfeiture is policing for profit, and those cops should be ashamed of themselves. They aren't, though. They went home thinking they did a good deed that day.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282757
06/09/21 10:09 PM
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records.
If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught.

Last edited by Boco; 06/09/21 10:12 PM.
Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: Boco] #7282763
06/09/21 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.

Just because you don't
Doesn't mean I or other people don't
I've had way more than that in a box that I went on a shopping spree with.
Just sayin

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282781
06/09/21 10:23 PM
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That sucks....


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Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: wetdog] #7282783
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by Boco
People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.

Just because you don't
Doesn't mean I or other people don't
I've had way more than that in a box that I went on a shopping spree with.
Just sayin


Just to clarify for your tiny brain-I never said I dont walk around with 50'thousand in cash,and I also stated there are exceptions.If you get stopped with a big amount of cash or even if you try to spend or deposit it you will have to prove it is not laundered or tied to illegal activity which is simple to do if it is legally obtained.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282788
06/09/21 10:32 PM
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Maybe in Canada, not here
Besides I DON'T use the corrupt banks. I will never pay someone else to let me use my own money
Always seemed dumb to me

And BOBO you sure are a piece of sh..

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: Boco] #7282789
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Originally Posted by Boco
People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records.
If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught.

When I ran my welding trk it was not unusual for me to have 25,000-30,000 in the bib of my overalls,Incase I needed materials such as a load of steel on a weekend.
Just cause you have never been out of the woods beaver trapping donít mean that no one else has.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282791
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I been all over the world and have sold international real estate,I doubt you could teach me much about money laundering law.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282804
06/09/21 10:48 PM
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It's nothing for some farmers to go to an equipment auction and have 100K+ in CASH in their pockets or bib Carhartts. Cash is still king! :-)


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Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282817
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Recently I bought a new car with cash,and my son bought a house with cash.
Only had to prove where the cash came from is all that is necessary.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282845
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Vacuumed sealed money is laundered money. Plain and simple. Like Boco.said. If it is legal. No worries. If it is not. Well then you got whatís coming to you.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: Boco] #7282870
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Originally Posted by Boco
People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records.
If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught.


That's not how it's supposed to work here. We have a long standing concept of "innocent until proven guilty". If the US hadn't lost it's way, the government would have to prove your guilt in court. If they can't do that, you're innocent. The way it works now is that you have to prove you're innocent. If you can't, you're guilty. It's wrong and it's more erosion of civil rights.

Forfeiture of private property should only be possible after a conviction for a crime.


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Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: Boco] #7282894
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Originally Posted by Boco


Just to clarify for your tiny brain-I never said I dont walk around with 50'thousand in cash,and I also stated there are exceptions.If you get stopped with a big amount of cash or even if you try to spend or deposit it you will have to prove it is not laundered or tied to illegal activity which is simple to do if it is legally obtained.



The tiny brain comment, isnít that enough to get someone a vacation?

The owner of the money shouldnít have to prove anything. Thatís on the police and the justice system. Just because someone is carrying a bunch of money means nothing until proven otherwise.

Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282897
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I've collected cash for decades and put into my safe. I also have a few bank accounts and a credit union account. If someone asked me about the tens of thousands I was buying something with and it was cash from my safe I shouldn't have to prove it was mine. It's not I'll gotten gains but I would have no record or proof that it was mine. Just saying


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Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282903
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Boco likes to stir things up for reasons known only to him.

Hard to believe anyone would support cops stealing money without evidence. Which is what it is. Theft. If there is no evidence to charge him with a crime what justification is there for taking his property?

I believe it is the anonymity of cash that big brother hates. When you involve a bank in your private affairs you are tracked. Internet companies, bank card companies, your bank, and the government, all know where your money is spent and for what. They know the source of that money if your deposit is a direct deposit or from a check. When cash is used your private affairs stay private.

Don't forget that if cops steal your money you have to go to court to get it back. Your taking them to court. The burden of proof is on you. Same thing the IRS does. The burden of proof has shifted from the accuser to the accused.

another loss of our civil rights


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Re: Cash is still illegal [Re: danny clifton] #7282905
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A dancer was stopped on I-80 in Nebraska. She had close to a million in cash in her car. The Nebraska State patrol took it, for a while anyway. She said ďI worked hard for that money and itís mine!Ē. Judge agreed and she got it back. No record of where it came from or proof how she got it. Burden of proof was on NSP who failed to prove the money didnít rightfully belong to her.

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