Cash is still illegal
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Looks like cash is still illegal also. Any chance a bill or two had been used as a coke or meth straw? by someone else? No charges filed but L.E. steals the money. looks to me like the thieves are the only ones there is enough evidence to convict. https://www.yahoo.com/news/drug-sniffing-dog-kansas-city-173208173.html
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Re: Cash is still illegal
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P.S. I have seen grand nite champion coon dogs (yes plural) tree possums, slick tree and chase deer. Dont tell me a dog is anything more than just a dog.
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Re: Cash is still illegal
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P.S. I have seen grand nite champion coon dogs (yes plural) tree possums, slick tree and chase deer. Dont tell me a dog is anything more than just a dog. Yup, I'm amazed at a hounds ability and seen some amazing things but every one of them are capable of brain farts.
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records. If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught.
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good. Just because you don't Doesn't mean I or other people don't I've had way more than that in a box that I went on a shopping spree with. Just sayin
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good. Just because you don't Doesn't mean I or other people don't I've had way more than that in a box that I went on a shopping spree with. Just sayin Just to clarify for your tiny brain-I never said I dont walk around with 50'thousand in cash,and I also stated there are exceptions.If you get stopped with a big amount of cash or even if you try to spend or deposit it you will have to prove it is not laundered or tied to illegal activity which is simple to do if it is legally obtained.
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records. If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught. When I ran my welding trk it was not unusual for me to have 25,000-30,000 in the bib of my overalls,Incase I needed materials such as a load of steel on a weekend. Just cause you have never been out of the woods beaver trapping don’t mean that no one else has.
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I been all over the world and have sold international real estate,I doubt you could teach me much about money laundering law.
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It's nothing for some farmers to go to an equipment auction and have 100K+ in CASH in their pockets or bib Carhartts. Cash is still king! :-)
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Recently I bought a new car with cash,and my son bought a house with cash. Only had to prove where the cash came from is all that is necessary.
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People dont walk around with $22,000 in a bag unless they are up to no good.There are exceptions and its easy to prove with bank records. If its legit money he will have no problem proving where it came from.If its laundered money or money from crime Its good that he got caught. That's not how it's supposed to work here. We have a long standing concept of "innocent until proven guilty". If the US hadn't lost it's way, the government would have to prove your guilt in court. If they can't do that, you're innocent. The way it works now is that you have to prove you're innocent. If you can't, you're guilty. It's wrong and it's more erosion of civil rights. Forfeiture of private property should only be possible after a conviction for a crime.
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Just to clarify for your tiny brain-I never said I dont walk around with 50'thousand in cash,and I also stated there are exceptions.If you get stopped with a big amount of cash or even if you try to spend or deposit it you will have to prove it is not laundered or tied to illegal activity which is simple to do if it is legally obtained.
The tiny brain comment, isn’t that enough to get someone a vacation? The owner of the money shouldn’t have to prove anything. That’s on the police and the justice system. Just because someone is carrying a bunch of money means nothing until proven otherwise.
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I've collected cash for decades and put into my safe. I also have a few bank accounts and a credit union account. If someone asked me about the tens of thousands I was buying something with and it was cash from my safe I shouldn't have to prove it was mine. It's not I'll gotten gains but I would have no record or proof that it was mine. Just saying
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Re: Cash is still illegal
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Boco likes to stir things up for reasons known only to him.
Hard to believe anyone would support cops stealing money without evidence. Which is what it is. Theft. If there is no evidence to charge him with a crime what justification is there for taking his property?
I believe it is the anonymity of cash that big brother hates. When you involve a bank in your private affairs you are tracked. Internet companies, bank card companies, your bank, and the government, all know where your money is spent and for what. They know the source of that money if your deposit is a direct deposit or from a check. When cash is used your private affairs stay private.
Don't forget that if cops steal your money you have to go to court to get it back. Your taking them to court. The burden of proof is on you. Same thing the IRS does. The burden of proof has shifted from the accuser to the accused.
another loss of our civil rights
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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