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Nuisance Beaver - Opinions #7283193
06/10/21 01:58 PM
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Hi all,

Looking for honest opinions from folks knowledgeable about the business of trapping nuisance beaver. 99% of my calls are in rural areas on large drainages with little human activity around the water... basically trapping glorified ditches in between corn fields LOL.
Today I got a request to trap a creek behind a subdivision of Mc Mansions in the swanky part of town. All of the homes in the crescent back on to the creek and the properties are not fenced. There are also plenty of yuppies on kayaks and paddle boards in the area.

Would you: avoid the job altogether, run footholds on rebar drowners or find an inconspicuous way to set a 330? I am leery of footholds (even though that is my preferred option) because if I have a live one that doesn't go down the rod I can't fire a gun there to dispatch (bylaw)

I don't want to disappoint the client but I also don't want to expose myself (and the activity of trapping) to undue risk of negative publicity... what would you do?


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283197
06/10/21 02:01 PM
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I would pass. That's just me.


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283200
06/10/21 02:05 PM
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Would a .22 cal. Air rifle be legal?


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283201
06/10/21 02:06 PM
06/10/21 02:06 PM
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Georgia
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Fortunately I have Georgia backing me up. It shall be unlawful to fail to carry a .22 and dispatch trapped wildlife. Bylaws be dammed. But now that said I fully understand the predicament and try every possible way to avoid testing that one in court. To the point of alternate methods of dispatch as that rule could also be interpreted to mean only legal means as well.

First my go to would be footholds and other than chain drowners I've never had one at the top of my fiberglass rods. Next would be 330s and cages.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283203
06/10/21 02:07 PM
06/10/21 02:07 PM
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Cages could be an option. Charge enough in case they grow legs of hdy damaged.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283213
06/10/21 02:25 PM
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I trap suburbia and know your issues. Whatever you choose, it could turn into a real headache unless everyone on that waterway doesn't want the beaver there (highly unlikely). Or you can check and remove critters without notice (because someone IS going to complain).

You are smart to think about the possibility of a beaver splashing around with 15 people standing next to it. Then what? Going to thunk it over the head while people are live streaming you? For this reason, I'd personally stay away from footholds AND magnum bodygrips. We've all caught beaver in magnums by the tail alive and frisky when we get there.

Personally, I'd only use submerged non magnum #330s or those same traps tucked away in the cattails (away from shore) on a floats if you have cattails. Floats can be a valuable asset in areas of high people/pet presence. Anything on the shore could be a potential dog issue if those people are anything like the people around here. Shore is a No Go for me around people.

Either way, it's going to be a headache and as we know getting every beaver with #330s isn't always doeable. Nothing wrong with telling the customer that under the circumstances you're not comfortable until later in the season when all the humans and their pets leave the water. And if you do take it, let him know there's a good chance he's going to be getting calls from POed people who want to save the beaver. Just some food for though.


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283226
06/10/21 02:42 PM
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Run footholds on drowners, set at daylight, and check at daylight, before people get out.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283230
06/10/21 02:51 PM
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Set on Monday and pull before the weekend so fewer people are recreating on the water.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283307
06/10/21 05:35 PM
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Hard pass.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283313
06/10/21 05:43 PM
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Get job in writing, have Homeowners Association on board and have them post signs on property. If not up to your standards ....walk

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283326
06/10/21 06:01 PM
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I would really look it over good. I would probably pass on the foot holds. If I can get a beaver under water to swim through a 330 that would be my choice of trapping. Set early and check early before most are awake. Plan your entrance and exit for smaller chance of human interaction.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283328
06/10/21 06:05 PM
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I agree with the above. Get written permission. Have large liability insurance, and if you don't want people messing with you, don't take the job.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283334
06/10/21 06:13 PM
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A dog in a foothold...at the end of the rod will not be good.


Go with cages ONLY.

Not site about your Canadian civil courts, but here you can be sued for about anything.

I recently passed on a job very similar to your offer....except 5 lakes...no stream. HOA says all was ready to go...no problems. After I looked at area.....NO WAY!

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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283354
06/10/21 07:06 PM
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Thanks all. I'll probably go do a site survey this weekend and then decide based on setting options.


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283435
06/10/21 09:09 PM
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If they’re willing to pay what something like that is worth, there’s a good paycheck that’ll go along with it.


From what you’ve mentioned, I wouldn’t even put 330s into the truck. I’d probably leave the footholds at home too. Sounds like a cage trap job, and a price that will reflect everything that goes into such a job.



Good luck

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283444
06/10/21 09:20 PM
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What kind of damage are you dealing with that the beaver have to be removed?

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283464
06/10/21 09:44 PM
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I am not sure on the damage yet, but I assume they are chewing down very expensive landscaping trees. Will know more after a site visit.


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Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283729
06/11/21 10:16 AM
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Not sure what town or township your dealing with but one of our local hero's screwed up a job like your describing and the town passed a by-law only allowing live trapping. That's a little unfair to the guy because we all know dealing with animals that you cannot guarantee anything but we all wish he would have passed on the job. Every township surrounding this town also reviewed there ADC practices, thankfully no other by-laws where passed. The picture/video was of a beaver in a foothold, along a side of a trail, that did not make it down the drowner cable.

Whatever you do think of a bad catch and the video on Facebook and the picture in the local paper.

I have talked clients into waiting for winter. More room for error when your under the ice and less people out usually. I would use a cage but they are pricey for only one job if you mostly trap farms.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283754
06/11/21 11:03 AM
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Sask that is unfortunate that the incident changed laws for everybody.
I’ve had HOA actually purchase specialized items for me in the past. Doesn’t happen a lot but if they are serious it might be worth asking.

Re: Nuisance Beaver - Opinions [Re: slydogx] #7283796
06/11/21 12:48 PM
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So, I had a chat with the folks in charge of the watershed and we agreed that we would approach this cautiously and strategically... I'm going to visit site and do some investigating and we may be able to approach this from an area that is less accessible to the general public.

I really appreciate all of the input here.


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