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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288335
06/17/21 11:45 AM
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I am hoping the rain comes and helps. We had the longest lightning storm with rain I think I can ever remember, it was well over 2 hours solid. I don’t do local news or don’t follow face book to find out how many fires were started but I hope it wasn’t many. We were starting to get smoke from a fire by Ft. Knox mine before the storm.
Wish you well Ken!


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: Leftlane] #7288354
06/17/21 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I'd sure like to see you get that rain, sounds like your country needs it more than anyone elses



I'm starting to fell like ol' Bulletbox wishing for rain


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: Oh Snap] #7288356
06/17/21 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
I am hoping the rain comes and helps. We had the longest lightning storm with rain I think I can ever remember, it was well over 2 hours solid. I don’t do local news or don’t follow face book to find out how many fires were started but I hope it wasn’t many. We were starting to get smoke from a fire by Ft. Knox mine before the storm.
Wish you well Ken!


Thanks Larry. Our tankers coming out of Palmer were all being diverted to your area. Seems like that may have slacked off a bit


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288434
06/17/21 03:21 PM
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It's RAINING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288455
06/17/21 04:17 PM
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Glad to hear the rain has arrived. Hope it extinguishes the fire!

Chris


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288456
06/17/21 04:21 PM
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I'm glad to hear it's raining . I hope you get enough to help knock the fires down.

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288461
06/17/21 04:52 PM
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Yes, you are getting good rain now !

Love to see cool temps and rain in summer. mid 30s , and good rains for some days in the NW regions here.

Don't know why so many love baking sun and the heat !

Years ago, when the summers were always cool and rainy , those who moved into North Idaho from CA complained about the cool wet, and after a couple of years many moved out. Locals just smiled....along with the real winters ...really helped to thin out those who also didn't care for what the west was all about .

Enjoy the rain.... grin

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288464
06/17/21 05:12 PM
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Great news Ken. [b][/b]
PTL.


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7288475
06/17/21 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
It's RAINING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That’s awesome!!!

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7289152
06/18/21 04:38 PM
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Did the rain get her snuffed out ken?

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7289364
06/18/21 08:58 PM
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No but it sure slowed it down a lot. We had a real frog-strangler for about seven hours. Rained so hard it knocked out my internet connection.

It did allow the guys to get control of the fire just east of me. That's a real relief !


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7289366
06/18/21 08:59 PM
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Glad to hear!

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290218
06/20/21 10:36 AM
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white 17 -

I just had to resurrect this thread and comment Ken. Most people have the idea that forest fires are "bad". This comes, I suspect, from listening to, and believing the narrative, on MSM. In my opinion, nothing further from the truth. Wildfire, as you know, Ken, is an integral part of Alaska. Most of the resources that we use (lynx, marten, moose, etc) are dependent on periodic "renewal", facilitated by recurring wildfire. The best thing, in my opinion, that can occur, is mosaic natural wildfires that knock back or reset the natural progression of vegetation. Obviously, I'm all in favor of protecting trapline cabins and villages, but most of that area throughout interior Alaska, really needs to burn periodically. I'm sure you don't disagree.

My $.02....

Jack


Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290222
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So I guess controlled burns aren’t done out there?

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: Wanna Be] #7290246
06/20/21 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So I guess controlled burns aren’t done out there?


Sure. We do plenty of fuel reduction and habitat enhancement fires in AK.

I can recall at least one project where we fired out over 50,000 acres in two days in the Fortymile Country (and the third day it rained and we were heroes!)

But the bottom line is that we get plenty of natural fire (from lightening starts) and really don't need to deliberately light much.

Pete

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290302
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I agree Jack. As You well remember, our moose population was really being hammered by bears & wolves around 2000. If memory serves, your successor was out collaring moose calves in the late spring. Momma moose was not a happy camper and put some karate moves on Toby to save her calf. I believe it was the chopper pilot who fired a cracker round at momma moose and that started the Katlitna fire. The same old fire that this new one is now running into.

Well that old burn that I referenced above, is now providing just dynamite habitat for the moose and our population has recovered tremendously. Wolf control has helped a great deal and bear relocation helped somewhat.


This new fire is now 44% contained and "mopping up " has begun. We got a LOT of rain last night.

EDIT: this fire was caused by a campfire. The individual had camped there two weeks before the fire broke out. He thought he had put it out and claims he used lots of water and stirred the ashes. We all know how fire , in this country, can burn and move underground for a long distance and a very long time before coming to the surface again.

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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: Pete in Frbks] #7290316
06/20/21 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So I guess controlled burns aren’t done out there?


Sure. We do plenty of fuel reduction and habitat enhancement fires in AK.

I can recall at least one project where we fired out over 50,000 acres in two days in the Fortymile Country (and the third day it rained and we were heroes!)

But the bottom line is that we get plenty of natural fire (from lightening starts) and really don't need to deliberately light much.

Pete


I understand that, but wouldn’t more controlled burns reduce the fuel for the natural fires? It seems most fires I hear about are in areas where they haven’t been burned before if ever. That’s a lot of fuel waiting to ignite. We keep ours on a three year rotation and they can sometimes be a handful. Can’t imagine 10+ years of fuel on the deck.

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290320
06/20/21 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
The fire that's burning now is running into an old burn that is probably getting close to 20 years old.

Oh Snap said there was a fire near Fort Knox. I guess it must have been close to twenty years ago I was working at the mine and that entire area was ablaze. Went home smelling like you'd spent the day downwind of a smoldering campfire. Couldn't see across the mine some days. Stunted black spruce, wouldn't think there'd be anything left to burn.

Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290323
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I went through Ft. Knox mine about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't recall seeing evidence of a fire.


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Re: Paging Jumperzee [Re: white17] #7290326
06/20/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
I went through Ft. Knox mine about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't recall seeing evidence of a fire.

We could see the fires burning in the distance from the road going into the mine. It doesn't seem (memory) like it was that far off. There were days when you couldn't see the far side of the mine for the smoke.

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